Obama urges court to overturn California same-sex marriage ban

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by mrvee

It's not natural. But, it also goes against the created order of God who made Adam, a man, and Eve, a woman -- not two men, not two women -- to carry out his command to fill and subdue the earth. Homosexuality cannot carry out that command. It is, therefore, a contradiction to God's stated desire in the created order.

I am in a heterosexual marriage. My wife and I have made a voluntary decision not to procreate and remain childfree. Would you have my marriage outlawed because we're going against "God's command"?

[starseed]

Originally Posted by mrvee

It's not natural. But, it also goes against the created order of God who made Adam, a man, and Eve, a woman -- not two men, not two women -- to carry out his command to fill and subdue the earth. Homosexuality cannot carry out that command. It is, therefore, a contradiction to God's stated desire in the created order.

It is, therefore, a contradiction to God's stated love of humanity... as commanding us to continuously populate the Earth is condemning us to all the deadly consequences of going over the Earth's capacity for human population.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by mrvee

It's not natural. But, it also goes against the created order of God who made Adam, a man, and Eve, a woman -- not two men, not two women -- to carry out his command to fill and subdue the earth. Homosexuality cannot carry out that command. It is, therefore, a contradiction to God's stated desire in the created order.

This is such poop. People adopt because they can't have kids. Straight people even. *gasp*

So gay people just adopt - big whoop. Same as the straight infertile people or couples who choose to adopt rather than add more kids to the planet when there are plenty of children out there in need of homes. And subdue the earth? Awesome. *eyeroll*

And um, jesus had two dads. Seemed to work out pretty well for him. Well mostly. You know, until the sky daddy one decided to whack him. But never mind that. Carry on with the other asshattery.

[Reaper]

Of course gay people should be allowed to be married. They should have as much right to be miserable as heterosexuals.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by mrvee

So if you go to jail it's ok to pick up the soap..F'n perverts.

[Superfraggle]

Originally Posted by mrvee

It's not natural. But, it also goes against the created order of God who made Adam, a man, and Eve, a woman -- not two men, not two women -- to carry out his command to fill and subdue the earth. Homosexuality cannot carry out that command. It is, therefore, a contradiction to God's stated desire in the created order.

The Earth is full. And has pretty much been subdued. Hasn't that command already been fulfilled? Shouldn't we move on to something else now?

What are your views on incest? Seems like we wouldn't have gotten very far in filling and subduing the earth without Adam and Eve's kids and kids' kids and kids' kids' kids boning each other.

Assuming you believe that sort of thing. And take it literally.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by mrvee

It's not natural. But, it also goes against the created order of God who made Adam, a man, and Eve, a woman -- not two men, not two women -- to carry out his command to fill and subdue the earth. Homosexuality cannot carry out that command. It is, therefore, a contradiction to God's stated desire in the created order.

[mrvee]

Originally Posted by Dion

Keep my decrees and follow them. I am the LORD, who makes you holy. If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother, and his blood will be on his own head. If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. If a man sleeps with his father's wife, he has dishonored his father. Both the man and the woman must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man sleeps with his daughter-in-law, both of them must be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be burned in the fire, so that no wickedness will be among you. If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal. If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man marries his sister, the daughter of either his father or his mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They must be cut off before the eyes of their people. He has dishonored his sister and will be held responsible. If a man lies with a woman during her monthly period and has sexual relations with her, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them must be cut off from their people. Do not have sexual relations with the sister of either your mother or your father, for that would dishonor a close relative; both of you would be held responsible. If a man sleeps with his aunt, he has dishonored his uncle. They will be held responsible; they will die childless. If a man marries his brother's wife, it is an act of impurity; he has dishonored his brother. They will be childless. Keep all my decrees and laws and follow them, so that the land where I am bringing you to live may not vomit you out.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by mrvee

Keep my decrees and follow them. I am the LORD, who makes you holy. If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother, and his blood will be on his own head. If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. If a man sleeps with his father's wife, he has dishonored his father. Both the man and the woman must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man sleeps with his daughter-in-law, both of them must be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be burned in the fire, so that no wickedness will be among you. If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal. If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man marries his sister, the daughter of either his father or his mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They must be cut off before the eyes of their people. He has dishonored his sister and will be held responsible. If a man lies with a woman during her monthly period and has sexual relations with her, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them must be cut off from their people. Do not have sexual relations with the sister of either your mother or your father, for that would dishonor a close relative; both of you would be held responsible. If a man sleeps with his aunt, he has dishonored his uncle. They will be held responsible; they will die childless. If a man marries his brother's wife, it is an act of impurity; he has dishonored his brother. They will be childless. Keep all my decrees and laws and follow them, so that the land where I am bringing you to live may not vomit you out.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by mrvee

Keep my decrees and follow them. I am the LORD, who makes you holy. If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother, and his blood will be on his own head. If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. If a man sleeps with his father's wife, he has dishonored his father. Both the man and the woman must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man sleeps with his daughter-in-law, both of them must be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be burned in the fire, so that no wickedness will be among you. If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal. If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man marries his sister, the daughter of either his father or his mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They must be cut off before the eyes of their people. He has dishonored his sister and will be held responsible. If a man lies with a woman during her monthly period and has sexual relations with her, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them must be cut off from their people. Do not have sexual relations with the sister of either your mother or your father, for that would dishonor a close relative; both of you would be held responsible. If a man sleeps with his aunt, he has dishonored his uncle. They will be held responsible; they will die childless. If a man marries his brother's wife, it is an act of impurity; he has dishonored his brother. They will be childless. Keep all my decrees and laws and follow them, so that the land where I am bringing you to live may not vomit you out.

Is it fair to assume then that you believe that homosexuals should be punished with the death penalty?

[kirant]

Originally Posted by mrvee

Keep my decrees and follow them. I am the LORD, who makes you holy. If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother, and his blood will be on his own head. If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. If a man sleeps with his father's wife, he has dishonored his father. Both the man and the woman must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man sleeps with his daughter-in-law, both of them must be put to death. What they have done is a perversion; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man marries both a woman and her mother, it is wicked. Both he and they must be burned in the fire, so that no wickedness will be among you. If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal. If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. If a man marries his sister, the daughter of either his father or his mother, and they have sexual relations, it is a disgrace. They must be cut off before the eyes of their people. He has dishonored his sister and will be held responsible. If a man lies with a woman during her monthly period and has sexual relations with her, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them must be cut off from their people. Do not have sexual relations with the sister of either your mother or your father, for that would dishonor a close relative; both of you would be held responsible. If a man sleeps with his aunt, he has dishonored his uncle. They will be held responsible; they will die childless. If a man marries his brother's wife, it is an act of impurity; he has dishonored his brother. They will be childless. Keep all my decrees and laws and follow them, so that the land where I am bringing you to live may not vomit you out.

Should we also follow the second bolded statement?

Also this God fellow never says that two women marrying isn't bad

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Is it fair to assume then that you believe that homosexuals should be punished with the death penalty?

Not just homosexuals, but adulterers, zoophiles (and the animals they have sex with for some reason) and incestuous people. All must die.

Sex slavery is ok though, as long as it's a foreigner.

[Makarov]

I suspect that we are all just being trolled anyway.

[DownInFlames]

I had the same thought, but it's always fun to point out the crazy stuff in the bible.

[Thor]

Yep, prob a troll or Calgaryborn

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by kirant

Also this God fellow never says that two women marrying isn't bad

My gay kid will be thrilled to know this.

[mrvee]

Even in the asexual reproduction cycle of certain plants, there are male and female plant parts that facilitate the reproduction process. If you want to stick in the starfish go for it.

[Minnie]

How crowded is your closet?

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by mrvee

Even in the asexual reproduction cycle of certain plants, there are male and female plant parts that facilitate the reproduction process. If you want to stick in the starfish go for it.

Hooray?

[Dion]

Originally Posted by mrvee

Even in the asexual reproduction cycle of certain plants, there are male and female plant parts that facilitate the reproduction process. If you want to stick in the starfish go for it.

The Bible permitted behaviors that we today condemn

* prostitution
* polygamy
* levirate marriage
* sex with slaves
* concubinage
* treatment of women as property
* very early marriage (for the girl, age 11-13)