Kane plays the race card

[pylon]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

Be honest, do you guys see these words often when they describe white players?

No, because half of them have the vocabulary of 4 year olds.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

Be honest, do you guys see these words often when they describe white players?

Certainly not white players like Dion Phaneuf.

Last year at the draft, after listening to the Fan interview all the Flames' picks, one of my first reactions was surprise over how well-spoken they all were. They're all white, and it is genuinely surprising when a hockey player, especially one who was just drafted, is actually well-spoken.

[Locke]

Yeah, I think its all about context.

First of all, Kane had a stigma attached to his name prior to the photo due to his behaviour and reputation in Winnipeg.

And then he goes and puts up a photo like that at the single absolute worst time.

His reputation didnt help, but that was a boneheaded move.

If he thinks race plays into that perception then maybe hes got a self-fulfilling prophecy situation going on.

[moon]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

Be honest, do you guys see these words often when they describe white players?

Not very often unless talking about guys from the South sometimes but that likely has to do with not a lot of white athletes coming out of urban environments which support poor speech then a racist factor.

[The Yen Man]

It really depends on what Kane defines as "black" characteristics. If he's implying that acting like a rapper gangster and flaunting money and how rich you are is part of being black, then I guess he might have an argument. Perhaps in Kane's mind, living up to this stereotype is what it means to have pride in his culture and skin colour, and people who criticize him are doing so because they don't like the way he acts (which, by his definition, would actually make the race argument true)

[Fire]

If this was Patrick Kane instead of Evander Kane the public response would have been the same.

[doctajones428]

Man, I was really hoping Kane would be Winnipeg's Iginla, not just in the way he plays but in the way he acts.

Remember when Kane was cool?:

[Northendzone]

i was looking at the Wpg Free Press online at lunch and Kane seems to have indicated that his comments about racisim where mostly on social media - apparently nobody has come up to him and said anything. so

kane needs to learn that there are a lot of idiots out there hiding behind a computer screen - and the picutre he posted was dumb and the timing was terrible. His public persona has taken a hit in Wpg and he should be careful what he does for the next little while, people forget quickly.......

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by doctajones428

Man, I was really hoping Kane would be Winnipeg's Iginla, not just in the way he plays but in the way he acts.

Remember when Kane was cool?:

Who would have thought two years ago that we would be trashing Kane and standing up for Cooke today on Calgarypuck.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Who would have thought two years ago that we would be trashing Kane and standing up for Cooke today on Calgarypuck.

Clearly a sign that the world is ending. Fire and brimstone coming down from the sky! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes! The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats, living together! Mass hysteria!

[Meers]

I think there is some validity to Kane's point.

In part, Kane has been criticized for simply participating in hip hop culture - which is all about swagger and flaunting material wealth. Walk into any hip hop club in LA or New York and that's how many, many young men will be behaving.

Is it appropriate to trash Evander for simply behaving like a young black man?

Is it appropriate to demand that he behave more "white"?

No. That's textbook racism.

Hip hop is alien to a lot of Canadians and so they criticize it as "######baggery", "arrogance" or what have you. But, that's simply cultural prejudice.

My advice? Don't be a playa-hatea. Let the homey maximum swag.

[SeeBass]

Kane is just too big for Winnipeg

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by Meers

I think there is some validity to Kane's point.

In part, Kane has been criticized for simply participating in hip hop culture - which is all about swagger and flaunting material wealth. Walk into any hip hop club in LA or New York and that's how many, many young men will be behaving.

Is it appropriate to trash Evander for simply behaving like a young black man?

Is it appropriate to demand that he behave more "white"?

No. That's textbook racism.

Hip hop is alien to a lot of Canadians and so they criticize it as "######baggery", "arrogance" or what have you. But, that's simply cultural prejudice.

My advice? Don't be a playa-hatea. Let the homey maximum swag.

He is free to "maximum swag" all he wants. Just like people are free to form their own opinions of him.

[Dorkmaster]

Derek Roy tweeted about his car and got a ton of people riled up. Has nothing to do with the colour of your skin.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

Kane is just too big for Winnipeg

He seems like an LA/ New York boy.

[zunie75]

I think some of it is racially driven. We all stereotype. And while that may be a segway into racism, its the way the world is. If you guys on here don't want to admit it, I will.

When Kane cut his hair the way he did, the first thing that popped into my mind was, "That's a stereotypical black youth thing" (which is obviously incorrect and its just a narrow minded thought) It didn't bother me, and I don't care or condemn him for it, I enjoy personality and deviations from the cookie cutter hockey player, but I'm just being honest. I guarantee that 99% of you thought the same thing.

On the flip side when Brian McCabe had a mowhawk thing going (Which is an equally stupid hair cut) on...no one cared. It was just about his play. If a black player decided to get dreadlocks, guarantee people would see an issue with the style.

So while these aren't the most devastating forms of "racism", its still ingrained a little. Don't kid your self Calgary.

BTW I'm a 26 brown guy so i'm allowed to say this

[vektor]

I thought he was just really tanned all the time

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by Meers

I think there is some validity to Kane's point.

In part, Kane has been criticized for simply participating in hip hop culture - which is all about swagger and flaunting material wealth. Walk into any hip hop club in LA or New York and that's how many, many young men will be behaving.

Is it appropriate to trash Evander for simply behaving like a young black man?

Is it appropriate to demand that he behave more "white"?

No. That's textbook racism.

Hip hop is alien to a lot of Canadians and so they criticize it as "######baggery", "arrogance" or what have you. But, that's simply cultural prejudice.

My advice? Don't be a playa-hatea. Let the homey maximum swag.

So in your words behaving like a young black man is fulfilling the American media stereotype? I am mulatto and I can't tell you how many times white people have told me that I am not black because I don't act like the rappers they see on TV or have a street accent ( how the hell does this make sense for any Canadian born blacks to talk like this anyway unless they have watched to much TV?). I guess white people are conditioned via the media for every black person to act like they are from LA apparently.

Its really sad that many Canadian blacks feel like they have to conform to American societies view of our culture to be taken serious or else we are considered "white washed". Chris Rocks skitt is on the money. It seems that people are confusing Black people with Nigs. I think Evander Kane is a young impressionable mind and he is just falling into the same pitfall many young black people fall into.

[AR_Six]

"Why do you suppose people think you're a huge tool, Evander?"

"Hold on a second, I need to come up with the biggest tool answer I can think of to that question... Okay, got it."

[valo403]

Originally Posted by SeeBass

Be honest, do you guys see these words often when they describe white players?

I found the "genuinely black" line to be far more troubling. Like there's some sort of tipping point at which you get to claim genuine blackness.