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View Poll Results: Should the laws regarding pot use be changed?
No, they should stay the same. 20 11.70%
Decriminalized for use, but laws regarding growing and trafficking should remain the same. 36 21.05%
Yes, it should be legalized. 115 67.25%
Voters: 171. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-07-2012, 06:39 PM   #61
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Watching CBC and Kevin O'Leary is all for legalizing marijuana. He sees money in taxation and profit in selling the rights to grow. I think he wants in as an investment supplier.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:52 PM   #62
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I'm moving to Colorado and opening up a chain of 7-11's right away!
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:10 PM   #63
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Watching CBC and Kevin O'Leary is all for legalizing marijuana. He sees money in taxation and profit in selling the rights to grow. I think he wants in as an investment supplier.
I've heard him talk about it before.

He absolutely wants in.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:03 AM   #64
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I'm moving to Colorado and opening up a chain of 7-11's right away!
Peyton Manning must have known this was coming.

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i'm hoping now that this is mainstream news, and Washington/Colorado will probably end up a the Supreme Court to settle the matter federally, Canadians can start to put a bit more pressure on the conservatives to look at a similar ballot. and i don't even smoke pot, haven't touched a joint in years. but the benefits of legalization are far to large to ignore
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:02 AM   #66
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what's promising is that the large portion of people are beginning to think it's best to legalize. The opponents generally don't have any science to back up their claims so maybe it will be legalized one day. If it's not a synthesized chemical substance and it's natural, non-physically addictive and non-lethal it should be legal. Just get it over with, the world will not go insane, just don't legalize heroin,meth and cocain and we'll be fine.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:07 AM   #67
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I'm of the opinion that all drugs should be legal. I just don't think making them illegal is all that much of a deterrent. It never was for me anyways.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:08 AM   #68
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I really don't think making drugs like meth and heroin legal is a good idea, at all. The difference being they are actually chemically addictive, you take heroin once and you are physically addicted. Not marijuana, you take it once and there is a 0% physical addiction meaning you decide and not your bodies chemical reaction to it. Opiates have become a problem before in places like China because of their extremely addictive properties, nobody is giving out bj's for pot.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:15 AM   #69
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I really don't think making drugs like meth and heroin legal is a good idea, at all. The difference being they are actually chemically addictive, you take heroin once and you are physically addicted. Not marijuana, you take it once and there is a 0% physical addiction meaning you decide and not your bodies chemical reaction to it. Opiates have become a problem before in places like China because of their extremely addictive properties, nobody is giving out bj's for pot.
You obviously haven't met the right girl then.
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:44 PM   #70
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You obviously haven't met the right girl then.
Lol, hilarious.
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:03 PM   #71
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:13 PM   #72
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Heh, they added the poll to the wrong thread. Oh well, they could probably be merged anyway.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:17 PM   #73
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Decriminalization is the worst idea ever. IMHO I'd rather it stay illegal than see that happen. If you are going to allow people to use marijuana why not make some tax revenue from it?
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:39 PM   #74
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Individual freedom, mostly.

Although I would agree with taxing it.

EDIT: Interesting how the 1% votes. Good to see CP still favors individual freedom and personal choice.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:16 PM   #75
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Why Legalizing Drugs is a Bad Idea

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The Libertarian argument that we have the right to exercise sole dominion over our lives, except that “only actions that infringe on the rights of others can properly be termed crimes”, therefore, we should legalize drugs completely ignores all the unintended consequences. iii It is easy to say that a person should be able to shoot heroin or smoke a joint in his own home without Government interference. It is what the person does as a result of that use that should have all of us concerned. Also using the Libertarian argument, there is no legitimate reason to forbid children and teenagers from using drugs. They have the same rights as the rest of us, don't they? The legal use of alcohol and tobacco in this country is routinely proffered as examples for the legalization of drugs. The things that set alcohol and tobacco apart from these other drugs are their affects on us. Alcohol creates euphoria and is a depressant, but it takes awhile to become addicted from its use. Tobacco is quickly addictive, but there is no physiological or psychological effects from its use that prevent a person from safely functioning in society. How well has alcohol and tobacco worked out, however? The leading cause of death on our roads is by drunk drivers. Tobacco use has caused thousands of people to suffer with cancer. Why on earth would we want to legalize and in turn legitimize the use of more drugs in our society? The drugs we use now are bad enough.
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The last argument to make is that police lost the drug war, therefore, let’s give up and legalize them. The police have not lost the drug war any more than they have lost their battle with any other crime. Crime has always existed. Illegal drugs are just another crime. What police do is keep crimes down to a tolerable level. The drug laws do the same thing. Most people will obey the laws most of the time. There are only a small percentage of people who actually engage in the majority of the crimes, including regular illegal drug use. We as police officers want to keep the population of drug abusers and addicts down to the lower percentages of society. We are doing a pretty good job of that. If society, however, chooses to legalize these drugs, the lid will blow off the pressure pot and the police will not be able to contain the consequences. That means, you, your family, your friends, your co-workers, everyone, will suffer sooner or later. Do not let this genie out of the bottle, keep these drugs illegal.
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A lot of strange stuff in that article. While I agree with individual freedom and personal choice, I don't agree with serving alcohol to minors. I doubt anyone else that agrees with the legalization of marijuana does either.

As for their effects on us after we use them, alcohol is more dangerous than marijuana in terms of losing control, and there is no evidence to suggest that marijuana is as deadly as tobacco when it comes to causing cancer.

Regardless, the government isn't supposed to tell us what is good for us, and what isn't. As long as we don't harm anyone, it should be our right to do whatever we want.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:36 PM   #78
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What a terrible article. Wish I had time to tackle all their points, maybe tomorrow. But what sticks out to me the most is two things:

1) They refer to "drugs" as in all drugs being legalized (or the threat that because you legal one you have to legalize them all, HA!), not just marijuana which is the true argument, not too many people looking to legalize meth and I can say with 100% confidence that over 50% of Canadians have not done meth like they have marijuana.

2) I'm shocked that a law enforcement friendly website would want more money spent (bigger budgets) for something like this. Almost as shocking as the prison guard union wanting harsher penalties on crime.

This also gave me a chuckle.

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We as police officers want to keep the population of drug abusers and addicts down to the lower percentages of society.
Which is another reason to legalize it. Countries who are friendly on drugs have the lowest addiction rates and see them drop drastically after the change. Not only that but there are more resources and money to help these people instead of just throwing them in jail which is not a way to prevent further addiction.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:45 PM   #79
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The second someone starts talking about marijuana in the same sentence as heroin is the second they lose every single shred of credibility by proving a complete ignorance of their effects. You want to talk about how people behave on drugs, how about some scientific evidence instead of idiotic rhetoric. Like this one from biopsychological studies that shows how bad and terrible cannabis is


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As a non user of weed I have one question, how do they figure out how much is too much to drive a car? by the joint,the drag or just 0%?

I know for myself if I had 2 drags of the stuff I would be a dangerous driver, yet other people might be fine on 10x the amount...slippery slope.
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