Everyone should be ashamed of wanting to have sex with women. This is why women need to be always vigilant. All of their male friends clearly intend on raping them.
Everyone should be ashamed of wanting to have sex with women. This is why women need to be always vigilant. All of their male friends clearly intend on raping them.
What a stupid thing to write.
Also, CPs obsession with the friend zone pretty much confirms that the majority of this board is aged 15-24.
As a heads up, the current view from many girls nowadays when it comes to the 'friend zone' is that "women aren't machines that you insert kindness tokens into until sex falls out."
Never been friend zoned, and don't think I've done it to anybody, but I think I can understand the angst of pining over someone unrequitedly. It's just when a guy gets angry, or starts complaining about this friend zone stuff that I would feel apprehensive of what exactly he thinks this girl owes him.
yes, befriending a girl solely to get into her hot friend's pants.
No, that's just a trademark ######bag move. It's in the same vein as pretending to be interested in relationship with a girl just to get in her pants. Befriending a girl for the sole purpose of trying to get laid has the attributes of not only being incredibly ######y and chauvinistic as the other two examples, it's also totally passive-aggressive and pathetic. The rare ######-bitch combo.
No, that's just a trademark ######bag move. It's in the same vein as pretending to be interested in relationship with a girl just to get in her pants. Befriending a girl for the sole purpose of trying to get laid has the attributes of not only being incredibly ######y and chauvinistic as the other two examples, it's also totally passive-aggressive and pathetic. The rare ######-bitch combo.
I think the point of the friend zone is that it's not something you choose. You get forced in there and it's very difficult to get out. A lot of the time, women will exploit the situation. Especially young women who like to hook up with jerks, but want a nice guy to fall back on. That being said, it should never happen beyond your early 20s. By then you should have the confidence to find someone else and/or realize it's never going to happen and you only have negative things to gain from keeping the "relationship" around.
I think the point of the friend zone is that it's not something you choose. You get forced in there and it's very difficult to get out. A lot of the time, women will exploit the situation. Especially young women who like to hook up with jerks, but want a nice guy to fall back on. That being said, it should never happen beyond your early 20s. By then you should have the confidence to find someone else and/or realize it's never going to happen and you only have negative things to gain from keeping the "relationship" around.
Nah, I think it's something you choose through your own actions/inaction. Guys who end up in the friend zone usually end up there because they don't have the confidence to make a play for the girl, so they settle for something platonic and hope the girl will leave an opening or make the first move.
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Nah, I think it's something you choose through your own actions/inaction. Guys who end up in the friend zone usually end up there because they don't have the confidence to make a play for the girl, so they settle for something platonic and hope the girl will leave an opening or make the first move.
Didn't you guys just say the samething?
Guy wants girl, Girl doesn't want guy, Guy hangs around in an attempt to get their eventually.
Technically the guy chooses to be in that situation, but the alternative is to stop talking to someone that they obviously geniunely like, so it's not really an "alternative".
I don't think it happens past highschool because everyone is a little more mature and upfront with their intentions. You're not going to school with people every day and trying to build a relationship out of that anymore. You're most likely thrust into a situation that is "make or break" and hence, you go for it right away, before a friendship can develop.
Nah, I think it's something you choose through your own actions/inaction. Guys who end up in the friend zone usually end up there because they don't have the confidence to make a play for the girl, so they settle for something platonic and hope the girl will leave an opening or make the first move.
It's something you choose in the sense you have the ability to never speak to someone again. However, young dudes tend to:
1) have fewer options available; and
2) follow hot girls around like puppy dogs.
Also, a lot of girls really take advantage of situations. The whole friend zone thing really shouldn't happen past your very early 20s, although I see guys continue to get sucked into the trap. I had one friend who even went as far as to buy Vegas vacation, computers, etc..
It's something you choose in the sense you have the ability to never speak to someone again. However, young dudes tend to:
1) have fewer options available; and
2) follow hot girls around like puppy dogs.
Also, a lot of girls really take advantage of situations. The whole friend zone thing really shouldn't happen past your very early 20s, although I see guys continue to get sucked into the trap. I had one friend who even went as far as to buy Vegas vacation, computers, etc..
A sucker in a friendzone with as adult budget is a scary notion
My major problem with the friend zone is that it implies you aren't actually interested in being a friend to that person. Having friends that you have crushes on, on the other hand, is common and natural. It's probably the way most relationships start.
If someone is using you in a friendship, that's another story. You just need to drop that person. With the important caveat that "using" does not mean asking for emotional support, help with moving, talking about relationships etc as that's part of any friendship as long as there is reciprocation.
Is it really? Not in my experience. Personally, or what I've seen through friends and family.
The crap thing about the 'friend zone' is that it's usually a one way friendship. Now both parties are to blame for this for sure, a guy who let's himself get used is not blameless and as the prior cartoon illustrates, he may be in it for bad reasons too. But often it's a bad relationship and wouldn't be a true 'friendship' anyway.
And before you get too snippy, I am treating this thread rather lightheartedly. It's not supposed to be taken with 100% seriousness. As I put in my previous posts, there are always exceptions and different circumstance.
Although your statement which I bolded I can't agree with.
New research suggests that there may be some truth to this possibility—that we may think we’re capable of being “just friends” with members of the opposite sex, but the opportunity (or perceived opportunity) for “romance” is often lurking just around the corner, waiting to pounce at the most inopportune moment.
The results suggest large gender differences in how men and women experience opposite-sex friendships. Men were much more attracted to their female friends than vice versa. Men were also more likely than women to think that their opposite-sex friends were attracted to them—a clearly misguided belief. In fact, men’s estimates of how attractive they were to their female friends had virtually nothing to do with how these women actually felt, and almost everything to do with how the men themselves felt—basically, males assumed that any romantic attraction they experienced was mutual, and were blind to the actual level of romantic interest felt by their female friends. Women, too, were blind to the mindset of their opposite-sex friends; because females generally were not attracted to their male friends, they assumed that this lack of attraction was mutual. As a result, men consistently overestimated the level of attraction felt by their female friends and women consistently underestimated the level of attraction felt by their male friends.
Although men were equally as likely to desire “romantic dates” with “taken” friends as with single ones, women were sensitive to their male friends’ relationship status and uninterested in pursuing those who were already involved with someone else.
^How well did that study account for the fact that the responses from women were most likely completely full of ####?
Researchers brought 88 pairs of undergraduate opposite-sex friends into…a science lab. Privacy was paramount—for example, imagine the fallout if two friends learned that one—and only one—had unspoken romantic feelings for the other throughout their relationship. In order to ensure honest responses, the researchers not only followed standard protocols regarding anonymity and confidentiality, but also required both friends to agree—verbally, and in front of each other—to refrain from discussing the study, even after they had left the testing facility. These friendship pairs were then separated,and each member of each pair was asked a series of questions related to his or her romantic feelings (or lack thereof) toward the friend with whom they were taking the study.
Yeah that still gives me no faith that the girls weren't full of ####. I'm sorry but the trend they found towards women responding "I have no feelings of attraction for X, who is in a relationship" isn't a matter of the other party finding out, it's as much a matter of deceiving oneself. If anything, empirically I'd say the opposite holds true in my experience, but at the very least it should be a non-factor in the results.
There's a certain unadjusted-for effect of social expectations or (for lack of a better term) slut shaming that tends to lead to girls downplaying / being unwilling to admit to sexual attraction in some circumstances, including where the guy is "taken". Guys don't really have to deal with those attitudes.
New research suggests that there may be some truth to this possibility—that we may think we’re capable of being “just friends” with members of the opposite sex, but the opportunity (or perceived opportunity) for “romance” is often lurking just around the corner, waiting to pounce at the most inopportune moment.
The results suggest large gender differences in how men and women experience opposite-sex friendships. Men were much more attracted to their female friends than vice versa. Men were also more likely than women to think that their opposite-sex friends were attracted to them—a clearly misguided belief. In fact, men’s estimates of how attractive they were to their female friends had virtually nothing to do with how these women actually felt, and almost everything to do with how the men themselves felt—basically, males assumed that any romantic attraction they experienced was mutual, and were blind to the actual level of romantic interest felt by their female friends. Women, too, were blind to the mindset of their opposite-sex friends; because females generally were not attracted to their male friends, they assumed that this lack of attraction was mutual. As a result, men consistently overestimated the level of attraction felt by their female friends and women consistently underestimated the level of attraction felt by their male friends.
Although men were equally as likely to desire “romantic dates” with “taken” friends as with single ones, women were sensitive to their male friends’ relationship status and uninterested in pursuing those who were already involved with someone else.
Maybe that's why so many women have gay men friends.
Last edited by flamesfever; 10-26-2012 at 02:22 PM.
