New Orleans. Levees useless again. People on their roofs.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by BlackRedGold25

They might also not have the means to get out or a place to stay if they leave.

Well there are public emergency shelters where they can stay free of charge and I would be amazed if New Orleans does not have a public transit evacuation plan for special needs people or those who do not have access to private transportation.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Table 5

Oh, New Orleans has problems? You don't say.

A lot of it is run down and dirt poor. There's no two ways about it.

Thus my 'yes'; I was in agreement with you.

It also has one of the most unique cultures in NA, and some of the most down to earth-friendly people I've ever met. It's not a rich town by any means, but there's something about it, that when you visit, you can't help but become a fan. It gave the world Jazz music (Jazz fest down there is downright awesome) and fantastic creole/cajun food scene has some of the best chefs and food in the country.

I'd take 1 New Orleans for 10 Houstons or Oklahomas or Cincinattis of the world.
It's nowhere near perfect, but it has something most cities today don't have. Character.

Never said it didn't. Like you, I was just pointing out there is more to any city than just one element of it.

[BlackRedGold25]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Well there are public emergency shelters where they can stay free of charge

No there aren't. They aren't opening up places like the Superdome and the airport this time.

and I would be amazed if New Orleans does not have a public transit evacuation plan for special needs people or those who do not have access to private transportation.

I guess you're amazed then.

[wittynickname]

To me, the worst part of this situation, and with Katrina, is that people knew it was going to happen. I'm not talking days in advance, I'm talking years. I was a sophomore in high school, so figure this was 98-99, and read an article, complete with diagram, of what the consequences would be should a Cat 5 hurricane make a direct hit on New Orleans.

Everything in that article, from 6+ years before Katrina, happened when she blew through there. They knew in the late 90s that those levees couldn't withstand a direct hit from a strong hurricane. They just chose not to do anything about it. The city was poorly designed in the first place, located with much of it below sea level. The wetlands have been destroyed, leaving NO with no barrier between strong hurricanes and the city itself. Climate change is warming the oceans, which aids in developing more frequent and stronger tropical systems. And then the local government turns a blind eye to the inadequate levee system. It all added up in a terrible way when Katrina hit, but it could've been avoided, at least to some degree.

Obviously this storm is nothing compared to Katrina, but eventually another Cat 5 will make its way through New Orleans, hopefully the preparation is better that time around.

[You Need a Thneed]

^ Katerina was a class 3 when it hit New Orleans. But yes, a class 5 will hit there again.

[Delthefunky]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Clearly G.W. Bush isn't reacting to this crisis fast enough.

Seriously, considering the overall context, seems like a small breach.

On the other hand, its not a Category 5 hurricane.

I was talking to some people from New Orleans last year and they were quite happy with where their city was headed, saying Hurricane Katrina, for all its tragedy, had cleaned the city out of its poorest denizens, circulating them out into the rest of the country where they could exit their perpetual poverty cycle, leaving a new New Orleans that had retained its unique culture but was far more compact and invigorated. Their opinion anyway.

Cowperson

That's a terrible thing for those people to say. Circulating out so they exit their perpetual poverty cycle?? What a joke.

[BlackRedGold25]

Originally Posted by Delthefunky

That's a terrible thing for those people to say. Circulating out so they exit their perpetual poverty cycle?? What a joke.

Sometimes you have to look for the positive no matter how hard it might be.

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

^ Katerina was a class 3 when it hit New Orleans. But yes, a class 5 will hit there again.

It was a strengthening Cat 3, yes, borderline Cat 4. That basically sums up the problem, though, doesn't it? NO as it was couldn't even withstand a strong 3/4, imagine if a true Cat 5 made landfall there.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

^ Katerina was a class 3 when it hit New Orleans. But yes, a class 5 will hit there again.

Crazy as it sounds New Orleans was lucky with Katerina, a day earlier it was a cat 5 and the bad part of the storm(right side) didn't hit New Orleans, Isaac is showing them the power of the right side of a cyclone and it's a baby compared.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by BlackRedGold25

No there aren't. They aren't opening up places like the Superdome and the airport this time.



I guess you're amazed then.

What?


http://www.wate.com/story/19401628/l...rm-in-shelters

[valo403]

Originally Posted by BlackRedGold25

Sometimes you have to look for the positive no matter how hard it might be.

What's the positive there? I mean I see the positive for the rich person who said it, no more poor people dirtying up the place, but what about the people forced out? Cycling out of poverty by leaving behind everything they've ever had or known, including their families, to go to far flung places that have equally dismal employment prospects? Is that really supposed to be the positive there?

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by BlackRedGold25

No there aren't. They aren't opening up places like the Superdome and the airport this time.



I guess you're amazed then.

http://new.nola.gov/ready/city-assisted-evacuation

City-Assisted Evacuation assists those in Orleans Parish who cannot self-evacuate during a mandatory City-wide evacuation. City Assisted Evacuation provides transportation from designated City evacuation pick-up points to a central facility for outbound evacuation to State or Federal shelters. Please Note: City-Assisted Evacuation is not a guarantee of service. Barring medical mobility issues, you are responsible for getting yourself and your family to one of the 17 designated City Pick-Up Points for evacuation out of the City. You will receive information about pick-up points near you during this registration.