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Old 08-11-2012, 01:27 PM   #61
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My point that YOU declaring what someone should or should not find offensive is wromg....is weak?

OK then.
Test it!

A: "I find black people offensive!"
B: "A, that's stupid."
transplant99: "B, stop telling A what he should or should not find offensive."

A: "I find ethnic cleansing inoffensive!"
B: "A, that's ridiculous."
transplant99: "B, stop telling A what he should or should not find offensive."

People absolutely can and should tell other people what they should or should not find offensive.
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Captain Calgary (that's my nickname for Jerome Iginla) has played for Team Canada in Hockey. He also has African hermitage. If he had waved an African flag and a Canadian flag at the Olympics, I think that would have been just fine, thank you very much.
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Old 08-11-2012, 02:33 PM   #63
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Test it!

A: "I find black people offensive!"
B: "A, that's stupid."
transplant99: "B, stop telling A what he should or should not find offensive."

A: "I find ethnic cleansing inoffensive!"
B: "A, that's ridiculous."
transplant99: "B, stop telling A what he should or should not find offensive."

People absolutely can and should tell other people what they should or should not find offensive.

test fails.

No one can seriously decide what another person perceives as offensive or not... thats just assinine.

It would be akin to telling someone what music they should like or what food they should find tasty.
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Old 08-11-2012, 03:25 PM   #64
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Though i personally have no problem with what shr did or this guy for that matter, no one should tell others what they should or should not find offensive.
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test fails.

No one can seriously decide what another person perceives as offensive or not... thats just assinine.

It would be akin to telling someone what music they should like or what food they should find tasty.
Maybe I'm stupid, but I'm a little confused as to the points you're making. People shouldn't tell other people what they should find offensive or not offensive, but no one can decide what another person percieves as offensive or not?

In relation to SebC's post, your response is that we can't decide what those people percieve as offensive or not. But going by your first post, we shouldn't be telling others what they should or should not find offensive, therefore we shouldn't be telling those two people in SebC's test what they should or shouldn't find offensive, which should mean that SebC is right in his analogy, but you're saying he's wrong? I guess I'm just confused by this whole thing.

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Old 08-13-2012, 05:20 PM   #65
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Captain Calgary (that's my nickname for Jerome Iginla) has played for Team Canada in Hockey. He also has African hermitage. If he had waved an African flag and a Canadian flag at the Olympics, I think that would have been just fine, thank you very much.
To be picky... there is no such thing as an African flag. But I get your point.
Jarome Arthur-Leigh Adekunle Tig Junior Elvis Iginla was born in Edmonton but his father comes from Nigeria... so I guess, if he wanted to, he'd be waving a Nigerian flag.

But where do you draw the line? What if you were born in Canada but your mother was born in the USA and dad was born in Great Britain? Does that mean you get to run around waving 3 flags? How far back are you allowed to go? To where your grandparents came from? Further still?

If a country has chosen you to represent them at the Olympics you should have the courtesy to only wave that countries flag... no one elses
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:37 PM   #66
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To be picky... there is no such thing as an African flag. But I get your point.
This could be considered the african flag:


http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/int-au.html
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Old 08-13-2012, 06:46 PM   #67
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This could be considered the african flag:


http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/int-au.html

Seriously? The last time I looked, Africa wasn't a country and as such "Africa" wasn't invited to the Olympic games. Nigeria was though.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:30 PM   #68
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Seriously? The last time I looked, Africa wasn't a country and as such "Africa" wasn't invited to the Olympic games. Nigeria was though.
Touch-y.


You said there is no Africa flag, I said the African Union flag might be considered one, much like the EU flag is used for the Euro currency or Ryder Cup teams.

On topic:
I wonder if there was a fuss made when Marian Jones celebrated with a Belize flag:


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Old 08-13-2012, 09:40 PM   #69
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Touch-y.




On topic:
I wonder if there was a fuss made when Marian Jones celebrated with a Belize flag:

That is not the Belize flag that is the logo for Bristol Myers
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