So I just went a screening of Episode III...

[Calgary Flames]

Originally posted by MarchHare+May 22 2005, 02:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MarchHare @ May 22 2005, 02:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

No, it is most definetely him. Trust this Star Wars nerd.

Yeah, but how does the viewer know that?

I'm as big a Star Wars fanboy as anyone. I had heard before that Tarkin was making an appearance in this film, so I was on the lookout for him. If it went over my head, 99.9% of the film's viewers are not going to make the connection between "that officer on the bridge with Palpatine and Vader" and "that officer who bossed Vader around on the Death Star". [/b][/quote]
I dunno, it took me one second to tell my bro "Hey, that's Tarkin!" during that scene. It looks exactly like him.

*shrug*

[peter12]

So here is my question after seeing the movie...

Does Anakin Skywalker really turn out to be the Chosen One after all?

[Calgary Flames]

Originally posted by peter12@May 22 2005, 03:15 PM
So here is my question after seeing the movie...

Does Anakin Skywalker really turn out to be the Chosen One after all?

Yes, he was concieved by the force... he has no father, And in the end he does destroy the Sith by Killing the Emperor in Return of the Jedi.

The prophecy was true, it just took longer for it to come full circle.

[peter12]

Originally posted by Calgary Flames+May 22 2005, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Calgary Flames @ May 22 2005, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-peter12@May 22 2005, 03:15 PM
So here is my question after seeing the movie...

Does Anakin Skywalker really turn out to be the Chosen One after all?

Yes, he was concieved by the force... he has no father, And in the end he does destroy the Sith by Killing the Emperor in Return of the Jedi.

The prophecy was true, it just took longer for it to come full circle. [/b][/quote]
So what is Luke supposed to be?

[MarchHare]

Originally posted by Calgary Flames+May 22 2005, 03:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Calgary Flames @ May 22 2005, 03:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-peter12@May 22 2005, 03:15 PM
So here is my question after seeing the movie...

Does Anakin Skywalker really turn out to be the Chosen One after all?

Yes, he was concieved by the force... he has no father, And in the end he does destroy the Sith by Killing the Emperor in Return of the Jedi.

The prophecy was true, it just took longer for it to come full circle. [/b][/quote]
The prophecy was true, but "bringing balance to the force" didn't mean destroying the Sith. As Yoda said, the prophecy had been misinterpreted. Bringing balance meant killing most of the Jedi, evening out the two factions.

[CaptainCrunch]

Also if you think about it, when Luke went after his father in ROTJ he became angry when Vader threatened to go after his sister, Skywalker became angry and beat down his father and was tempted by the dark side which he refused.

With Vader, Palpatine and all of the other jedi gone, there was one force user who had used elements of both sides of the force thus the balance. I think that Luke was actually the chosen was, and Vader was the Catalyst.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally posted by MarchHare+May 22 2005, 08:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MarchHare @ May 22 2005, 08:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Yes, he was concieved by the force... he has no father, And in the end he does destroy the Sith by Killing the Emperor in Return of the Jedi.

The prophecy was true, it just took longer for it to come full circle.

The prophecy was true, but "bringing balance to the force" didn't mean destroying the Sith. As Yoda said, the prophecy had been misinterpreted. Bringing balance meant killing most of the Jedi, evening out the two factions. [/b][/quote]
yep that's how I took it. He brought balance to the force, the thing was the unbalance was more good than bad. Yoda always seemed skeptical of this, frankly I don't blame him. Aniken allowed all the Jedi to be killed but Kinobe, and Yoda. Then there was himself, and the Emporer the Sith. Two light, two dark. The Sith were more powerful, queue in Luke. Yoda becomes one with the force (explains him vanishing like Obie-wan) as does Kinobe. Now 2 sith, 1 new Jedi. Aniken turns on the sith, kills him then dies. Now you have just Luke left, and an untrained Leah. Luke doesn't really have the same level of training as a regular Jedi Knight. He's the last one left.

Fairly balanced. Just lots of death of good guys along the way.

[Calgary Flames]

Originally posted by Maritime Q-Scout+May 22 2005, 05:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Maritime Q-Scout @ May 22 2005, 05:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

The prophecy was true, but "bringing balance to the force" didn't mean destroying the Sith. As Yoda said, the prophecy had been misinterpreted. Bringing balance meant killing most of the Jedi, evening out the two factions.

yep that's how I took it. He brought balance to the force, the thing was the unbalance was more good than bad. Yoda always seemed skeptical of this, frankly I don't blame him. Aniken allowed all the Jedi to be killed but Kinobe, and Yoda. Then there was himself, and the Emporer the Sith. Two light, two dark. The Sith were more powerful, queue in Luke. Yoda becomes one with the force (explains him vanishing like Obie-wan) as does Kinobe. Now 2 sith, 1 new Jedi. Aniken turns on the sith, kills him then dies. Now you have just Luke left, and an untrained Leah. Luke doesn't really have the same level of training as a regular Jedi Knight. He's the last one left.

Fairly balanced. Just lots of death of good guys along the way. [/b][/quote]
Good points. Something I never even thought of until now.

but man, way to butcher the names :P

[kermitology]

Obi-Wan Kenobi
Leia
Anakin

what kind of Star Wars nerd are you?

[spydermal]

Anakin must hold some sort of world record for losing his hand.

[octothorp]

Originally posted by spydermal@May 22 2005, 11:16 PM
Anakin must hold some sort of world record for losing his hand.

Unless he lost a hand twice while on the same planet, I don't think he could qualify for any 'world' record. Galactic record is a possibility, though.

[Ro]

I was a little disappointed. Probably, I admit, more because of the hype for this one, and because I was expecting something equal to the first three, because it was not a bad movie.

But it was a prequel sequel, if you know what I'm saying, and there was still plenty to gripe about.

First of all, there might've been more action scenes than in any of the previous 5 movies, but I was not really wowed by any of them. George and Co. seem to have used up all the neat tricks by now, and none of the battle scenes equalled the technical awesomeness of the Darth Maul scene from E1, the Jango Fett/Obi-Wan scene or the Dooku/Yoda fight from E2, or the emotional impact and epicness of the "i am your father" scene in E5 or the final battle with the Emporer in E6.

The Obi-Wan/Anakin duel was just OK. They should have had more dialogue throughout it, and the one sequence of dialogue they did have (the rafts suddenly float far apart enough from each other, both men hold their light-sabers down) seemed pretty contrived to me. The Grievous fight had potential, but Obi-Wan made quick work of him, and the chase on the one-wheel gizmo never grabbed me.

I will admit the Yoda/Emporer fight was pretty sweet though. Also, the Mace Windu fight scene was great too. Short, yes, but it had a neat twist or two, and when combined with the elements of the situation, the dialogue, etc., it felt right at home alongside fights from the original trilogy.

And again, the acting (aside from Ian McDiarmid, who once again was AWESOME) was bleh, and the effects were just too much for me at times. Overdone a little.

I also agree about the RD stuff. Suddenly he has a flamethrower and a jetpack? If this were the original trilogy, they would've come up with a much more original, true to the character, and funny way for RD to slay those droids.

What else can I complain about... OK, at the end Yoda simply says "I must go into exile." Huh? Give us a little better explanation George, even if a fanboy can figure it out on his own, we want a little more in the way of motivation and thought process from the characters. Also, whoever said Anakin sure made a quick switch to the dark side was also right. One minute he's conflicted, and the next minute he's pledging his allegiance to the Emporer. OK.

The best Anakin scene was when he choked Padme and accused Obi-Wan of trying to steal her. Hayden Christensen really became Vader there, and we began to see some real anger. The movie needed more of that, IMO.

At least all the galactic senate, republic mumbo jumbo made more sense to a casual fan like myself this time. Still, bottom line, if these three movies weren't attached to the original trilogy, they'd be a complete waste of time. Although I enjoyed it more than the first two, I'm not eager to see it again, and it won't be added to my DVD collection come Christmas time.

[spydermal]

R2 had a jet pack in attack of the clones. It was nothing new.

[Flame On]

Mabye some of the features R2 had earlier on became redundant or damaged as he got older or went from owner to owner. Plenty of reasons why these features weren't scene. We didn't see a radar or electric saw in A New Hope but that didn't stop Lucas putting them in in Return of the Jedi.

[Ro]

Originally posted by Flame On@May 23 2005, 12:35 PM
Mabye some of the features R2 had earlier on became redundant or damaged as he got older or went from owner to owner. Plenty of reasons why these features weren't scene. We didn't see a radar or electric saw in A New Hope but that didn't stop Lucas putting them in in Return of the Jedi.

I suppose that could be the case, and actually, I agree with you.

But do you not think it's a little gimmicky to bring the best of ther best for R2 out now?

Maybe not, but I found it to be groan-inducing instead of "wow, cool"-inducing.

[calgaryred]

Originally posted by Calgary Flames+May 22 2005, 02:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Calgary Flames @ May 22 2005, 02:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-peter12@May 22 2005, 03:15 PM
So here is my question after seeing the movie...

Does Anakin Skywalker really turn out to be the Chosen One after all?

Yes, he was concieved by the force... he has no father, And in the end he does destroy the Sith by Killing the Emperor in Return of the Jedi.

The prophecy was true, it just took longer for it to come full circle. [/b][/quote]
Well that could be for debate I agree that I believe he was conceived by the force, but Palpy told Anakin that his sith lord could create life as well as stop people from dying. Lucas wouldn't answer the question in an interview (I believe it's the current issue of Entertainment Weekly) but said it's all in the eye of the beholder what you think. So either he was constructed by the force to be the chosen one, or he was planted and created by the sith he does have natural tendencies to steer to the Dark Side.

[CaptainCrunch]

In the making of booklet, there was a portion of the script where Palpatine tells Anikan that he was created by the Sith, but Lucas took it out because it was too easy of a way out to explain Anikan's fall. He would have gone from being a good man who was seduced and corrupted and then redeemed. to someone who was born to be a Sith and then had no way of being redeemed.

I watched ANH last night and I have to admit that the prequel series has now completely changed the way that I viewed Darth Vader. When we saw Vader for the first time on the Tantive IV we still saw him as the key villian, but we saw the tragedy and the fact that he was trapped.

Also I was amazed at how close EM was to Alex Guiness in portraying Obi Wan Kenobi.

It was actually quite cool

[Tower]

Holy crap guy's What are you going to do when Trailer Park Boy's comes out with their movie....
"Ricky's car didn't have a door - THAT'S CRAP!"
"Bubbles glasses are too small!"
"Julian spilled his drink what bullshister!"

[Resolute 14]

I think the worst part of this movie was the attempted chemistry between Anakin and Padme. It was just contrived all along. Then again, that is one aspect of the storyline that this movie is on par with the original trilogy. Lucas should not be writing intimate scenes.

However, overall, it is amazing how much better a Star Wars movie is without Jar Jar. Shame Lucas can't go back and simply write that twit out of the first two.

What interested me the most is that the droids were used as a guilt-free way of allowing scenes of mass killing, giving the entire second trilogy a cartoonish feel to it. You can blow up Wile E Coyote 1000 times, and he comes back 1000 times, just like the droids. In this movie however, You not only have Anakin killing "real" creatures, but killing children. I thought it did very well to convey how fast and hard Anakin had fallen.

[CaptainCrunch]

The movies couldn't have worked without Jar Jar Binks. Its unlikely that a smart senator would have been duped by Palpatine to give him emergency powers. I thought that was one of the great touches as a tip of the hat to the Jar Jar haters.

And your right the romance scenes were really stilted, but HC nailed down the Darth Vader part when he lost the last of Anikan Skywalker and choked out his wife.

People keep saying that they wanted more dialogue during the Light Saber duel between Obi Wan and Vader, and I simply don't get that. there was good dialogue at the start and at the end that really covered the anguish and rage. What more do people want

Anikan (Stabs at Obiwan) - ewww I almost got you old chum

Obi-Wan Kenobi - (Blocks) - En Guard you traitorous dog

Anikan (Slashes) - You are no match for me

Obi-Wan (blocks) - Dude John Holmes was no match for me

Obi-Wan tries to turn Anikan back at the beginning and realizes that his friend is dead, there's nothing more to be said, there's no chance to turn him back

At the end, he mourns the death of Anikan and leaves him to the fates, Anikan shows how consumed he is by the dark side. It kept it simple.