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Old 09-09-2011, 08:30 AM   #61
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Seriously? They aren't uncommon. At all.
What kind of sweat pants would be required to go with 500 dollar shoes?
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What kind of sweat pants would be required to go with 500 dollar shoes?
Adidas. But then I'm Russian and Russians think Adidas sweat pants go with anything.
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There is so much money in this city - Salary is but a small percentage of many people's total income, after bonus, options, presidents lists, SAR's, UAR's, etc, etc, etc.

Saying "John drives a BMW and only makes $80K a year" could also mean "John cashed in $500K in options and SAR's this year and drives a bimmer?!" Tough to judge a book by it's cover, even if you've read page one (salary).
One thing you can't judge a person's net worth on is by the car they drive.
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:40 AM   #64
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What kind of sweat pants would be required to go with 500 dollar shoes?
They don't have $500 shoes in Edmonton so it's a moot point
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Adidas. But then I'm Russian and Russians think Adidas sweat pants go with anything.
Russian fashion is similiar to Edmonton.
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:48 AM   #66
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Russian fashion is similiar to Edmonton.
they have tangerine colored sweat pants from Cotton Ginny in Russia??
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they have tangerine colored sweat pants from Cotton Ginny in Russia??
No, just blue Adidas.
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:56 AM   #68
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I think a large part of it is the idea that at people aged 22-26, fresh out of school, think they can immediately live like their parents do.

2000sq ft house, nice car, trips all the time etc.

I was just speaking to someone the other day who's in an entry level type position like me, fresh out of Uni and they drive a Beemer which they pay $500 a month for and have a $400k mtg.

My cheap Nissan is paid off and I have a $200k mtg and we make about the same amount of money. And the guy wonders why he's having a tough time making ends meet.

For the people who will retire later than they thought, I blame it on living beyond their means. So few people have any type of proper retirement savings. CPP is not going to be enough to live off of in 20-50 years, in fact it may not even be there anymore.
They also don't know that when their parents bought their homes and the like, there were different financing rules in place...and those rules basically forced some economic scrutiny on the individual.

When we bought our first home:

a) Only the primary earner in the family could use their income for evaluation to procure a mortgage.

b) 20% or more was the standard downpayment

c) Only 30% of your income could be used towards a mortgage on your home

Going further from your post, our generation was much more focused on saving up to make our purchases. We never even got our first VISA card until late 70's, somewhere in there. Credit cards were not the norm except for some major department stores like Sears and Eatons.

And most of our generation still lives that way. Certainly we have credit cards now, but most of the time, only one, maybe two....and we pay them off diligently every month.

Another point, it is much harder to reach the financial security that my generation has. We were kind of at the pinnacle, and I think our children are the first generation that will not be better off than their parents.

Case in point, how easy it was to get my first job....I used to teach.

I was living in the Regina area, but after marriage would be living in Saskatoon, and that is where I would start teaching. My Dad took a day off from farming, drove me up to Saskatoon, without an appointment, without prior sending out resumes and the like. In fact, we never even knew where the school board offices were. However we found them quite readily, I was granted an interview, and walked out of there with a job.

At that time, mid 70's, graduating geologists from Saskatoon were kind of "wined and dined" by Alberta companies seeking new employees in the energy field. There was kind of a job search week when the companies came down to hire, you went there to be interviewed, taken out for dinner, and the like. My husband had 3 job offers, fresh out of university, within one week.

That does not exist today. It is much harder to get a job and it is much harder to reach financial security at your job. I think that might be part of the reason why there is such a "me" and "now" generation at the present time. However, that attitude of course, also alludes to why in many cases, people are living from pay cheque to pay cheque.
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Fior all these responsible people in the past generation, there sure are a lot of seniors who have no problems (pride) to demand the government give them handouts because they are destitute.
I think you would have to take a look at actual numbers and do a comparison among ages. I know that the very elderly seniors are not even aware of the many social services that exist, many live in isolation, not connected to the net, etc. They are not the ones demanding services.

IMHO, I think the number just looking for a handout would be quite small compared to willing to work and make their way. I don't think this is any different than any other facet of life, a few bad apples make the whole demographic look bad.
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:12 AM   #70
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I have never seen a mens pair of $500 dollar shoes, do they come with a built in TV or something?
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Old 09-09-2011, 10:59 AM   #71
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I have never seen a mens pair of $500 dollar shoes, do they come with a built in TV or something?
Quite common. Usually, depending on the maker, it means quality full-grain leather, goodyear-welting (type of construction), and fully, or near fully hand-grade. Basically, it means that it won't have to be replaced for 30+ years with proper care.

http://www.pediwear.co.uk/crockett/products/366.php
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Old 09-09-2011, 11:39 AM   #72
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Psh, $500 shoes? Try at least 10 times that:

http://nikemag.ebay.com/shoes

And it's for charity!

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Well I spent $500 dollars on a pair of Paris work boots way back in 92. They were specially made for climbing. They wieghed about 5 pounds a piece but, man were they comfortable.
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The issue here isn't with people with well paying jobs over extending themselves. The issue is moreso with the shrinking middle class and many people not having decent paying jobs in the first place for them to squander the money. This might be lost on many Calgarians with the high levels of well paying jobs but look around the rest of the country.

I'm not necessary lamenting this loss of high paying-low skill jobs. But we need to start implementing policies now that smooth out this bubble. THe key will be to investing in education that produces high value added output relative to international competitors. It happens in places like Scandinavia where they have good re-training programs and an erudite business class that seems to be able to make specialized and marketable goods that they can produce.
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