I was up late and was actually laying on the couch at about 4 am watchin the NYC channels morning news and remeber the weather reporter was broadcasting on the street and talking about how it was a nice calm morning in the city. Went to bed and my roommate woke me up yelling about how NYC was on fire and being destroyed....don't think i left the TV for days..
on a side note anyone who buys in to the 911 conspiracy IMO is on the low rung of the intelligence meter..sorry it's true.
Just saying but im sure lots of the first responders that lost friends and co-workers that day would of considered them "family" also.
I'm sure they would, as would the friends and co-workers of people who died at Cantor Fitzgerald or Marsh, or any of the other people in the building. IT would simply be impossible to accomodate all of those people, and if you're going to need to draw a line I'd say that an appropriate palce to do so is with the family of the victims. Remember, this isn't the same as the 9/11 ceremonies in past years, this is a dedication of the memorial to the victims.
I think the worst part of 9/11 were the after effects over the next couple of days. There were man on the street arguments caught on tape of angry New Yorkers yelling at people that they thought were Muslims. People declaring that they should nuke the entire middle east. It got worse when they saw videos of celebrations in Gaza.
But somehow, New Yorkers did pull together and become united, and I noticed that when I visited New York a few years later and visited the site and talked to people that for a long while the entire atmosphere in the city changed.
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I was up late and was actually laying on the couch at about 4 am watchin the NYC channels morning news and remeber the weather reporter was broadcasting on the street and talking about how it was a nice calm morning in the city. Went to bed and my roommate woke me up yelling about how NYC was on fire and being destroyed....don't think i left the TV for days..
on a side note anyone who buys in to the 911 conspiracy IMO is on the low rung of the intelligence meter..sorry it's true.
Nice cheapshot in a thread where we shouldnt be discussing this matter.
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My third or fourth day of kindergarten was on 9/11. At first I crawled out of bed and my dad was in his bedroom folding laundry watching the news (I walked in when one of the towers went down) and I really didn't give a crap about what was on the TV all I really wanted was my usual bowl of frosted cheerios but now that I look at it I realize how selfish I was being. 3000 people just died and all I wanted was breakfast cereal? I want to slap my 5 year old self. But that afternoon I went into my classroom and the teacher was crying so about half the class began crying too. So in all my kindergarten year was pretty much defined by that moment.
My third or fourth day of kindergarten was on 9/11. At first I crawled out of bed and my dad was in his bedroom folding laundry watching the news (I walked in when one of the towers went down) and I really didn't give a crap about what was on the TV all I really wanted was my usual bowl of frosted cheerios but now that I look at it I realize how selfish I was being. 3000 people just died and all I wanted was breakfast cereal? I want to slap my 5 year old self. But that afternoon I went into my classroom and the teacher was crying so about half the class began crying too. So in all my kindergarten year was pretty much defined by that moment.
Thanks for making me feel old.
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Woke up, saw it on the news. Watched for a while. Went to school (grade ten), nobody said anything all day about it.
It was just another day as far as everybody was concerned. In retrospect, and after reading this thread, I guess that reaction was kind of weird.
I don't know. It was 4,000 km away. As callous as it sounds, it was like watching a world vision ad. Yes it's brutal and awful and horribly unfortunate, but people die needlessly every day. People die from dictators and terrorists and preventable diseases every day. What was different about this day?
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I always thought James Duthie's piece on 9/11 was brilliant. Apologies for the hockeybuzz link - couldn't find it on the TSN site...though it was in Duthie's book which is worth picking up anyways. http://my.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?us...0&post_id=2437
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I was working at Superstore in Brandon, MB at the time as I'd just graduated from High School (yes saskflames96's story makes me feel old) and was taking a year off before going to college.
Anyways I didn't have to work till 11-12 so I had slept in and got up around 10:00ish and my Mom was home watching the news reports. She was actually on strike at the time and had been on the picket line quite a bit so I asked "hey, what are you doing at home?" to which she replied "America is under attack..."
I believe by the time I had gotten up the second plane had already hit but both towers were standing. I had the radio on the in car on the way to work and still trying to absorb what was really happening, that whole day/afternoon at the store was filled with updates from coworkers "a tower has collapse, a plane hit the pentagon" along with a bunch of the crazy rumours of the day "president is dead, whitehouse is on fire etc".
The biggest thing I remember from that day/weeks after was the feeling that the other shoe was yet to drop. All those terrible events that happen in "other" parts of the world had happened here (north american in general) and we were no longer safe. That feeling stuck around for a long time afterwards as I recall.
The biggest thing I remember from that day/weeks after was the feeling that the other shoe was yet to drop. All those terrible events that happen in "other" parts of the world had happened here (north american in general) and we were no longer safe.
I know what you mean, the strategy part of my mind thought that the 4 attacks were a distraction for something much bigger and more destructive.
I honestly thought that there was going to be a massive explosion somewhere else, or a dirty nuke going off in California or something.
I was a bit surprised that 9/11 was the main attack.
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Woke up, saw it on the news. Watched for a while. Went to school (grade ten), nobody said anything all day about it.
It was just another day as far as everybody was concerned. In retrospect, and after reading this thread, I guess that reaction was kind of weird.
I don't know. It was 4,000 km away. As callous as it sounds, it was like watching a world vision ad. Yes it's brutal and awful and horribly unfortunate, but people die needlessly every day. People die from dictators and terrorists and preventable diseases every day. What was different about this day?
The fact that these people lived in a place where these things weren't supposed to happen. It's much easier to watch things happen in the third world and have it feel distant, you can't relate to many aspects of that life experience. To see it happen in a place that is very much like where you live, and to people that are very much like you and me changes everything.
You also were a moronic 16 year old surrounded by moronic 16 year olds, putting actual thought into anything that doesn't directly impact you at that stage would be unexpected.
I know what you mean, the strategy part of my mind thought that the 4 attacks were a distraction for something much bigger and more destructive.
I honestly thought that there was going to be a massive explosion somewhere else, or a dirty nuke going off in California or something.
I was a bit surprised that 9/11 was the main attack.
Yeah the thing that got me was how localized that fear become for everyone as well. Even though I was in Brandon, MB many people were convinced "it could happen here" despite the fact that a small Manitoba city would be very low on a list of targets people were still convinced of the risk of going to the mall on certain days because they had heard "all malls are going to be bombed next".
I remember saying to more than 1 person "look, we live in Brandon, Manitoba, this isn't New York, Toronto or Vancouver, nobody is targeting our small city"
The fact that these people lived in a place where these things weren't supposed to happen. It's much easier to watch things happen in the third world and have it feel distant, you can't relate to many aspects of that life experience. To see it happen in a place that is very much like where you live, and to people that are very much like you and me changes everything.
Approximately 3,000 people die from HIV/AIDS in Africa every day.
And yet people have little to no problem with the Catholic church and US government policies which inflate and exacerbate this problem.
But it's okay, cause they're in Africa right? They're not people like us, right?
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Woke up, saw it on the news. Watched for a while. Went to school (grade ten), nobody said anything all day about it.
It was just another day as far as everybody was concerned. In retrospect, and after reading this thread, I guess that reaction was kind of weird.
I don't know. It was 4,000 km away. As callous as it sounds, it was like watching a world vision ad. Yes it's brutal and awful and horribly unfortunate, but people die needlessly every day. People die from dictators and terrorists and preventable diseases every day. What was different about this day?
I hate to call you a liar, but uh............yeah. It sounds like you're trying to make a point that it wasn't a big deal to you. But to go so far as to say you actually went to school with hundreds of students on September 11th 2001 and "nobody said anything all day about it"?
I try to keep my remarks pretty light-hearted on CP, but I have to say, that is absolute bull****.
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I hate to call you a liar, but uh............yeah. It sounds like you're trying to make a point that it wasn't a big deal to you. But to go so far as to say you actually went to school with hundreds of students on September 11th 2001 and "nobody said anything all day about it"?
I try to keep my remarks pretty light-hearted on CP, but I have to say, that is absolute bull****.
I can say with certainty that none of my teachers mentioned it. Was there some talk between kids? I guess so. I might have even exchanged a "yeah that's brutal" that I don't remember, but that's about it. Certainly there were no outpourings of emotion like the kind mentioned in this thread.
We live on an island, maybe we're just weird.
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Approximately 3,000 people die from HIV/AIDS in Africa every day.
And yet people have little to no problem with the Catholic church and US government policies which inflate and exacerbate this problem.
But it's okay, cause they're in Africa right? They're not people like us, right?
You seriously can't see the difference? They are both tragic, but they are incredibly different. I think even 16 year old you would be capable of figuring that out.
