Ontario Judge Rules Canada's Marijuana Laws Unconstitutional

[RobotTalk]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Because those cartels would throw up their hands say oh well and stop what they're doing.

They would move to make money in other ventures like harder drugs and guns and human smuggling, and they would fight harder over those smaller markets.

I would bet that wars over marketshare for those harder edged products would be just as if not more nasty.

Methamphetamine production and trafficking forms a large (and growing) part of the Cartels revenue already. They also control the flow of Cocaine from SA into NA. The only drug class that they don't have a large stake in is opium/heroin. Unfortunately, as long as drugs remain illegal the incentive for criminal organizations to produce and traffic them will always exist. The value of the drug trade is so large that someone will always try to capitalize on it, no matter how harsh the penalties.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Because those cartels would throw up their hands say oh well and stop what they're doing.

They would move to make money in other ventures like harder drugs and guns and human smuggling, and they would fight harder over those smaller markets.

I would bet that wars over marketshare for those harder edged products would be just as if not more nasty.

But the US government could spend that $7 billion dollars a year they spend right now on arresting and prosecuting marijuana users on real crimes like the ones you mention above.

It will never happen in the US. The unions that fight for it's illegal status are too big, too powerful and too rich.

[FlamesAddiction]

I've experimented with a lot of stuff. Not to excess, but I've tried a lot. In my opinion, marijuana should be legal but controlled.


I used to like to have a few tokes once in a while. My brother-in-law used to grow a very mild version that made you feel very calm and a little giddy. It also made you introspective. I always hated getting pot off the street because it seemed most of it was meant to eff you up. For that reason alone, I don't bother with it anymore. If other people like it, then go nuts.... it's just not for me.

[RobotTalk]

Originally Posted by HOOT

But the US government could spend that $7 billion dollars a year they spend right now on arresting and prosecuting marijuana users on real crimes like the ones you mention above.

It will never happen in the US. The unions that fight for it's illegal status are too big, too powerful and too rich.

To give you an idea of the degree to which prohibitionary thinking in entrenched in the United States, the "Drug Czar" and DEA are required by law to oppose any and all legalization attempts. Further the Office of National Drug Control Policy is forbidden, again by law, to fund any study that explores the possible benefits of legalization/de-criminalization. Clearly US policy is being driven by ideology and interest groups instead of how best to reduce drug use.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by RobotTalk

To give you an idea of the degree to which prohibitionary thinking in entrenched in the United States, the "Drug Czar" and DEA are required by law to oppose any and all legalization attempts. Further the Office of National Drug Control Policy is forbidden, again by law, to fund any study that explores the possible benefits of legalization/de-criminalization. Clearly US policy is being driven by ideology and interest groups instead of how best to reduce drug use.

Ya that is all well documented. There was a study in 2000 or 2001 that the government funded and when the study came back showing that marijuana does not cause cancer like cigarettes they had to change the wording to "should" and "may" cause cancer.

The unions for prison gaurds is one of the most powerful in the US. And they continue to fight for longer sentances and punishment for crimes like small marijuana possession.

[HOOT]

It's 4:20 here on the west coast....

Just letting everyone know because it's cool.

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by HOOT

It's 4:20 here on the west coast....

Just letting everyone know because it's cool.

I'm Bring_Back_Shantz and I disapprove!

[Yasa]

Interesting video. That probably can explain the amount of paranoia I can get when I smoke.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

I don't care if someone smokes pot every once in a while.
What bugs me is when adults still think it's cool to be a stoner.
I guess I shouldn't say it bugs me, I just think the guys who are pushing 30, still have a pot flag in their house, and won't shut up about how it should be legal are just losers.

Who cares, why does it bug you what other people do?

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by HOOT

This is so wrong. Hydroponics is a way to grow the marijuana so you can control the environment, not because it makes higher THC levels.

actually hydroponics just allows better intake of nutrients, so it grows faster and more efficiently. and I agree it doesn't make thc levels higher as that is strictly strain dependent. Some of the best strains these days could have been around for years and years.

[ricosuave]

Originally Posted by HOOT

But the US government could spend that $7 billion dollars a year they spend right now on arresting and prosecuting marijuana users on real crimes like the ones you mention above.

Real crimes? Like the arresting and prosecution of marijuana users? Because it seems to me that right now, that is a crime.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by ricosuave

Real crimes? Like the arresting and prosecution of marijuana users? Because it seems to me that right now, that is a crime.

Agreed. I guess I just see crimes which have greater risk to the population besides small marijuana possession crimes, which is 80% of all marijuana convictions in the US. $7 billion dollars well spent for sure.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by Flames_Gimp

actually hydroponics just allows better intake of nutrients, so it grows faster and more efficiently. and I agree it doesn't make thc levels higher as that is strictly strain dependent. Some of the best strains these days could have been around for years and years.

There are a lot of factors that go into nutrition intake, hydroponics is one of them. It's all about controlling the complete environment and nutrient intake is a small piece of that. And when you say years, try 1000's of years, we have just perfected a way to grow it to get optimal quantity and time, not necessarily more quality or higher THC levels.

[Flames_Gimp]

Originally Posted by HOOT

There are a lot of factors that go into nutrition intake, hydroponics is one of them. It's all about controlling the complete environment and nutrient intake is a small piece of that.

even in soil you need to control the environment and aeroponics is even better.

[Flames_Gimp]

http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/co...Federal-Appeal

[THE SCUD]

Friggin hippies. I say legalize it, so I am not paying 40% tax rate to fund the pot heads on EI. This way they can pay tax and fund themselves on EI!

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Well slap my ass and call me Sally.

A 5% increase sure seems like it is much much more. One thing I do know that what was considered high-end stuff even 30 years ago compared to todays stuff is like the difference between sipping a wine cooler and slugging back 6 shots of Sauza.

Even if it is, who cares? So you smoke less of it and achieve the same high.

[malcolmk14]

Seriously? 5 month bump for that?

[Hilch]

Originally Posted by malcolmk14

Seriously? 5 month bump for that?

Potheads get distracted easily. Suprised he could find the seach feature.