Waldorf

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

I know a guy who went to the Waldorf for elementary. All he learned there was how to make candles out of beeswax, and some German song about three-pointed hats.




True story.

Mein hut, er hat drei Ecke!

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Because that's what education is all about.


/derail

Derail back on

You're right...but it does give a some info

[fundmark19]

Originally Posted by chemgear

They actually graduate?

Yup they have nothing to look forward to in their basketball career so they stay and finish they're degree(s)

[CaptainCrunch]

You should send your kids to St Trinians

[socktape]

Originally Posted by Lanny's Stache

Us Fataheads in Cougar Ridge have no choice but to bus kids to Wildwood, etc. The school boundaries mean that my kid can't won't be able to go to the new West Springs school that is 6 blocks away in Wentworth. They instead have to bus the kids past 3 other schools on the way to Wildwood. I would imagine most of us less fortunate schlubs in the burbs would rather not have the brutal bus ride to Wildwood.

I concur with LS on this one... my kids missed out on going to the Joan of Arc school in West Springs/Springside by a year... The boundry they initially set for the school was so large that they had kids coming from all over the west side of Sarcee Tr. All the kids going to John Costello and St. Micheals had the option of going to the new school and by grandfathering their siblings still to come as well. Within 2 years of opening the new K-9 school it was full. The choice then became..which school does your son or daughter bus to..while pretty much driving past 2 schools to get to the one you were designated to. The public system was no different and the Wentworth school was still a year and a half away...although they had already said that CR students weren't going to be allowed to go there.

We ended up sending our child to Westgate.. he was getting bussed either way, might as well learn a language as well.

[vanisleflamesfan]

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[troutman]

Why are so many parents certain that university is the key to their children's success and happiness?

[troutman]

Originally Posted by fotze

Its key to the parents happiness, especially when comparing to friends kids. and if ain't doctor or lawyer its worthless. Can possibly salvage some dignity with accounting or engineering.

and why haven't you commented on the third post in this thread. Its made for you.

+1

I think there are too many miserable children in university that should not be there. And too many children made to feel miserable for not going to university.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by troutman

+1

I think there are too many miserable children in university that should not be there. And too many children made to feel miserable for not going to university.

Your opportunities are pretty limited without a degree, or at least some sort of post-secondary education. Maybe some are miserable in university, but it will usually serve them well in the long run, won't it?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by troutman

+1

I think there are too many miserable children in university that should not be there. And too many children made to feel miserable for not going to university.

I got the guilt trip from my parents. Being immigrants who were poor and with me being the 1st in my family to be able to become university educated, they made me feel like I had to do it.

In retrospect, I think that I would have been much happier learning a trade. A friend of mine from highschool was an honour student and had a >90% average. Everyone thought he was going to go to a big university, but instead he became cabinet maker. He makes more money than I can ever hope for with my science degree and professional designation.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

I know a guy who went to the Waldorf for elementary. All he learned there was how to make candles out of beeswax, and some German song about three-pointed hats.




True story.

Where do I sign up? Those hats rule!

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Your opportunities are pretty limited without a degree, or at least some sort of post-secondary education. Maybe some are miserable in university, but it will usually serve them well in the long run, won't it?

If I recall correctly, the data that states that a university degree delivers more income over a lifetime than a trades certificate is questionable, if not faulty. Most plumbers make far more than university graduates.

[Mightyfire89]

As my old man always said to me on report card day "Keep on slacking off in school if you want. The world needs ditch diggers too". I've done alright for myself without post secondary education, but I think it is fairly important for kids to educate themselves as much as possible.

[troutman]

I just hope my children will become decent happy people that contribute to society to the best of their abilities.

[JohnnyO]

Originally Posted by Jedi Ninja

http://alberta.compareschoolrankings...hools-2010.pdf

Woohoo St Vincent De Paul. (K-9 Alumni)

Amazing 3/3 kids with University degrees and top end jobs coming from a hard working blue collar up bringing attending this school.

We were bullied, we kept score, we failed and learned from it, we didn't get participation awards for everything. We got in trouble, but were more scared of the trouble we'd get in at home so we respected our teachers.

Parents have the biggest say in how well a kid does in school. Work ethic, dedication to learning, nutrition, support.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by peter12

If I recall correctly, the data that states that a university degree delivers more income over a lifetime than a trades certificate is questionable, if not faulty. Most plumbers make far more than university graduates.

Well think about the legions of people that graduated with B and below averages in an arts degree. They can't end up working for good money on the basis of their degree alone and their grades are too crappy to get into law, medicine or anything that builds into a well-paying career.

Ultimately all an arts degree gets you in the job world is a leg up on high school graduates for clerical jobs. My guess is that in a place like Alberta if a job making money was of their highest importance, going to a place like SAIT and getting technical education would serve them better. I wonder how many of them ended up in that situation not by choice but rather yielding to parental or societal pressure to go to University.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

Well think about the legions of people that graduated with B and below averages in an arts degree. They can't end up working for good money on the basis of their degree alone and their grades are too crappy to get into law, medicine or anything that builds into a well-paying career.

Ultimately all an arts degree gets you in the job world is a leg up on high school graduates for clerical jobs. My guess is that in a place like Alberta if a job making money was of their highest importance, going to a place like SAIT and getting technical education would serve them better. I wonder how many of them ended up in that situation not by choice but rather yielding to parental or societal pressure to go to University.

The worst thing to happen to a liberal arts education was its eventual degradation into vocational training. I hate to sound like an idealist, but the arts and humanities are supposed to train and prepare one's soul for living a good and virtuous life. It sort of sickens me, as one who has been educated in the humanities, when it is forced into something practical and necessary to live a prosperous life.

The arts are very difficult, and one has to love them, in order to thrive in them. Most kids are sent to do arts because a) it doesn't have a strong mathematical component, b) the language requirement has disappeared from the undergraduate level, and c) student prose and writing requirements have fallen through the floor.

Thus, a good many students are able to "get by" with C's and B's, but they are totally unhappy, and aimless. They don't know why they are in the arts, only that they SHOULD be in the arts because society or more likely, their silly parents demand it.

My father is a rather successful stone-mason/brick-layer. He would not have the patience, or the required laziness to study Old and Great Books, and not just study them, but make them the love of his life.

There is nothing wrong with this. Students should have the freedom and encouragement to decide upon a respective career that does not involve 4+ years of useless (to them) university education

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

My wife's sister sends their kids to Waldorf school. They were going to homeschool them but my mother-in-law insisted that they go to school and is paying for it.

Put it this way...

They also believe in "The Secret". They are militantly anti-Vaccine. They eat only raw meat (including chicken). They believe cancer is all in the mind. They do (and teach) Reiki. They believe in homeopathy. They never used diapers on their kids (they say that they are humiating to children).

...and of course, they believe in Waldorf schooling.

Wait a second...If they're following "The Secret" shouldn't they be able to afford their own private school? Wouldn't money just be attracted to them?

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by Shazam

That's good because McD's needs the labour force.

LOL...What McD's (and Wendy's and Burger King and KFC and every other similar establishment in the city) are you going to? Every one that I've ever been in clearly had more visible minority employees then white ones.

Nice attempt at a little quip, but that one went over about as well as a lead balloon.