Teen shot and killed by Edmonton police officer.

[firebug]

Originally Posted by Trojan97

It's a tragedy that a 17 kid is so screwed up and broken that he leaves our world attempting to attack a cop with a weapon. His parents should be completely ashamed of themselves.

Kudos to the officer for doing what needed to be done.

Don't you think this is a little unfair?

We don't know what, if any, role his parents had in this situation.

I would guess at this point his parents are feeling something much different than shame.

[Cowboy89]

I believe the cop's actions were justified. Bottom line if I was the cop I wouldn't want some punk @$$clown prevent me from coming home to my family that night and would do whatever was necessary to ensure that I didn't get stabbed.

I would feel much worse about the situation if the cop got stabbed attempting to shoot the kid in the leg or arm trying to spare the kid his life. Cops don't get paid enough to transfer more risk onto themselves by being expected to aim for the arms or legs or use their tazers in the heat of such situations.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

So they didn't have a tazer on hand?...these types of incidents are perfect for tazer use. Oh yeah I forgot, the police can't help but go overboard and use them on everybody.

This comment shows you have no clue what you are talking about. Thanks for coming out.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

As you said, cops are trained to shoot and ONLY shoot for the kill. They dont mess around.

Dont come after cops with weapons and you wont have a problem.

Police do not shoot to kill, that would be murder. They shoot to stop the threat of death or grievous bodily injury. It just so happens that the best place to shoot to stop this threat is centre mass and that happens to be where all the vital organs are.

[Pinner]

Did we find out how far away the kid was ? To me that makes a big difference.

Cops seem pretty blood thirsty lately.

[theonlywhiteout]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Police do not shoot to kill, that would be murder. They shoot to stop the threat of death or grievous bodily injury. It just so happens that the best place to shoot to stop this threat is centre mass and that happens to be where all the vital organs are.

why are you talking about something clearly are clueless about? cops are trained to shoot for centre of mass to ensure they make the hit. centre of mass=lethal when hit.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

You, a random internet user had me on ignore? Oh my.........how will I ever recover from this.
Go ahead and put me back on ignore will ya...

I find cops are too inclined shoot before exhausting all other options.

A bat, and a knife are dangerous no doubt, but they are limited by the reach of the suspect.

I guess my opinion is clouded after seeing so many videos on youtube of cops shooting people with knives even when they are not physically threatening anyone with them. I have even seen cops shoot a wheelchair person who was holding a knife.

That's why you are not a police officer. You would have been killed in the line of duty long ago trying to do a tv ninja move on a guy with a knife and bat.

[Pinner]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

That's why you are not a police officer. You would have been killed in the line of duty long ago trying to do a tv ninja move on a guy with a knife and bat.

Oh please, being a cop is one of the safest jobs, stop the drama.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by theonlywhiteout

why are you talking about something clearly are clueless about? cops are trained to shoot for centre of mass to ensure they make the hit. centre of mass=lethal when hit.

Haha, I'm clueless am I? I can guarantee you my friend, no police officer is taught to kill anyone.

Originally Posted by Pinner

Oh please, being a cop is one of the safest jobs, stop the drama.

Really? What other job on earth, aside from the militar,y are you hunted and murdered because of the uniform you wear.

You are clueless.

When did you get out of Remand btw?

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Pinner

Oh please, being a cop is one of the safest jobs, stop the drama.

I can promise that my job is safer that that of a cop. Occasionally I get to climb a ladder...

[HPLovecraft]

If he was being attacked, I see no problem with what the cop did, and I'm not the biggest fan of them. Just like anyone else, he has to defend himself. If I were being charged at by a guy with a knife and I had a weapon, I'd defend myself, too.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Pinner

Oh please, being a cop is one of the safest jobs, stop the drama.

While you are correct in that the rate of homicides against police officers is statistically lower than that average, at the same time I don't know if I would consider the police force really a safe job. As with any job their can be accidents but there are few jobs that I can think of that one would say there is a reasonable risk of being in a physical altercation on any given day.

More people die in construction accidents but when a police officer is harmed or unfortunately is murdered, it isn't an accident for the most part.

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by Pinner

Did we find out how far away the kid was ? To me that makes a big difference.

Cops seem pretty blood thirsty lately.

[Pinner]

Originally Posted by Bent Wookie

Really? What other job on earth, aside from the militar,y are you hunted and murdered because of the uniform you wear.

You are clueless.

When did you get out of Remand btw?

Ha ha, Drama Queen !

The most dangerous thing a cop does is drive, just like you or me, except they get treated well in traffic.

Firefighters and Cops have very safe jobs and they are FAR more likely to make a claim of "injury", probably 10 X more likely than an average private sector worker.

[metallicat]

You're calling him a drama queen, and you just finished calling cops bloodthirsty. Quit trying to stir the pot.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Pinner

Ha ha, Drama Queen !

The most dangerous thing a cop does is drive, just like you or me, except they get treated well in traffic.

Firefighters and Cops have very safe jobs and they are FAR more likely to make a claim of "injury", probably 10 X more likely than an average private sector worker.

Very safe jobs in which you are 10x more likely to be injured. How did your brain manage to come to those two conclusions without seeing that they are clearly at odds with each other?

[Pinner]

Originally Posted by valo403

Very safe jobs in which you are 10x more likely to be injured. How did your brain manage to come to those two conclusions without seeing that they are clearly at odds with each other?

Learn how to read

[Pinner]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

You're calling him a drama queen, and you just finished calling cops bloodthirsty. Quit trying to stir the pot.

Have you not been watching the news ?

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Delgar

That's a pretty good point, though the head is harder to hit than a leg or arm, I'd think. I'm content to debate what they should do instead of trying it out in a real situation Again, I think a cop should have a choice to try the legs first shot if it seems like a good alternative at the time. I don't fault them being trained or instructed otherwise, and in the same circumstances I'd probably go with instinct over a sense of needing to not kill the villain.

Thinking more, this kind of reminds me of 6 hours of training for my first skydive. We went over the drill to deploy the emergency shoot for hours, along with all kinds of other mundane movements. Only after I jumped out of the plane was I glad to have been so programmed with near automatic responses!

Will you still be ok with this arguement when you are the person standing behind the criminal while the police officer is trying to shoot the arm or leg and you end up being the casualty?

Police are not trained to shoot arms, legs, feet or hands. It will never happen. Look at a target that police use to shoot at and none of them have arms or legs.

The only people that might shoot at arms or legs are snipers with rifles that have ample time to assess and shoot. Not a split second shot with a handgun. It will never happen and it should never happen.