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Old 01-25-2011, 09:43 AM   #61
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Not go totally off topic, but this is why I'm looking forward to Sochi 2014 so much. They were embarrassed in Vancouver last year, I'm expecting them to go full Russian on us next time.
Have the Canadian hockey team sleeping in old military prisons or Gulags out in Siberia, yeah, I could see it.
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[QUOTE=CaptainCrunch;2915130]Yeah, I agree, Uncle Joe was an interesting mix. He was the ultimate political animal, but he was fueled by paranoia and a very strange version of patriatism.

He saw himself as the Great Leader, and I think that he was the last true believer of Soviet Style socialism.

And he was a very brilliant man with a boat load of charisma.

I never did understand why he and Mao didn't get along, in the end they wanted the same things and operated the same way.[/QUOTE]

There can be only one... great socialist leader.
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There can be only one... great socialist leader.
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And 100 million dead between the two of them. Nice ideology.
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And 100 million dead between the two of them. Nice ideology.
I think that's low...
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I think that's low...
Mao accounted for 70 million himself... What's Stalin at?
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He might be upwards of 50 million. Regardless, the amount of people that were killed in China and the USSR, in the name of the great socialist movements is, well, sickening.
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Mao accounted for 70 million himself... What's Stalin at?
I think that was just for the Great Leap Forward wasn't it?

I just finished reading Mao's biography.

Besides the fact that he liked to plow very young virgins. He didn't bath or brush his teeth for 27 years. Found out that one of his advisors had cancer and denied him any medical treatment so that he would suffer. He was a swell guy and a kind and generous leader.
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I think that was just for the Great Leap Forward wasn't it?

I just finished reading Mao's biography.

Besides the fact that he liked to plow very young virgins. He didn't bath or brush his teeth for 27 years. Found out that one of his advisors had cancer and denied him any medical treatment so that he would suffer. He was a swell guy and a kind and generous leader.
We read the same biography I think - very good - can't remember the author's name... The fellow who was not allowed treatment was Chou En Lai if I recall correctly - he was the man who negotiated the "opening to China" with Kissinger in the early 70's.
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Yup, I couldn't remember his name, but I believe you're right.

Its a good book and pretty indepth.

I've now read a biography on the Kim's in Korea

Lenin

Mao

a bunch on Hitler

Last year I finished a new one on Rasputin and his relationship with the Czar and his wife

I'm onto a new one about Stalin.

After that its Lenin

At some point I want to find some books on Tamerlane as there is a common thread back to him by all of these bloodthirsty despots.
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Yup, I couldn't remember his name, but I believe you're right.

Its a good book and pretty indepth.

I've now read a biography on the Kim's in Korea

Lenin

Mao

a bunch on Hitler

Last year I finished a new one on Rasputin and his relationship with the Czar and his wife

I'm onto a new one about Stalin.

After that its Lenin

At some point I want to find some books on Tamerlane as there is a common thread back to him by all of these bloodthirsty despots.
If you want to read a really, really good one of Stalin, read Montefiore's (sp?) 2-parter - Young Stalin & Court of the Red Tsar.
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I've already read the court of the red tsar and really liked it, I picked up Young Stalin on the weekend, and another biography that covers birth to death.

Thanks for the recommendations.
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Russian TV linked Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 to this tragedy

http://kotaku.com/5742990/russian-tv...ssian-massacre
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Gotta blame somethin'. Personally, I blame Jews unicorns.
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