More police brutality

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by puckluck

I will eat my pubes in a pube sandwhich.

Open faced? type of bread?

[Buzzard]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

I know what you're saying but you can't say that based on this video, with sketchy audio or history of the guy they are arresting.

• Maybe this guy is well known to police?

• Maybe the brain damage he's suffered has made him prone to violence?

• Maybe the arrest was after a lengthy pursuit?

It looks harsh but as always maybe judgement should be reserved until all the facts come out?

The video of the incident, combined with the interview clip of him scrambling for words then jumping into the safety of a cruiser, lead me to believe his bad ass should be grass.

There are no maybes with this incident. Although I'm sure him and his lawyer will come out with all kinds of reasons for his behavior.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by Buzzard

The video of the incident, combined with the interview clip of him scrambling for words then jumping into the safety of a cruiser, lead me to believe his bad ass should be grass.

There are no maybes with this incident. Although I'm sure him and his lawyer will come out with all kinds of reasons for his behavior.

If the victim is a scumbag and deserves a kick in the chops I hope it hurt.
If the victim is just a regular dude doing his job and got kicked in the face for nothing, I hope he gets a tidy payday

If the Cop is a good cop who lost control for the first time in his career, I hope he's not made an example of.
If the Cop is a loose cannon who's got a history of beating people up - he should fired so he can be a bouncer at club where his skills would be appreciated.

[algernon]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

If the victim is a scumbag and deserves a kick in the chops I hope it hurt.
If the victim is just a regular dude doing his job and got kicked in the face for nothing, I hope he gets a tidy payday

If the Cop is a good cop who lost control for the first time in his career, I hope he's not made an example of.
If the Cop is a loose cannon who's got a history of beating people up - he should fired so he can be a bouncer at club where his skills would be appreciated.

What's the over/under on career face-kicks in order to still qualify for "Good Cop" status?

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by algernon

What's the over/under on career face-kicks in order to still qualify for "Good Cop" status?

Caught on film? I'm guessing 1.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by Coys1882

Sometimes son people do bad things and they deserve a kick in the face.

While that might be true, it certainly isn't the police's place to be delivering those kicks.

Maybe you're from some inbred hick place where "he needed kickin'!" is a valid defense, but Canada isn't that place.

[Coys1882]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

Maybe you're from some inbred hick place where "he needed kickin'!" is a valid defense, but Canada isn't that place.

wow - personal attacks much? A lot of your posts make me think you enjoy anal beads and wearing a beret but it isn't necessary for me to post it. The first sentence was more than enough to prove your point.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by valo403

Umm he was working, the police said as much.

No the police said they are now lead to believe he was on the golf course shooting blanks to scare geese. Yes that is his job, however he currently is on disability leave.

No different from me being a fry cooker at McDonald's, if I'm on leave and show up at work, hop over the counter and throw down a batch of fries.

That said, I doubt there'd be any charges of trespassing or misfiring a firearm

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

I really can't make out what is going on, the guy appears to be on his knees and his arms are out in front on the ground, and he is kicked in the face. It appears to me that he is accepting the arrest, nothing more. I can only say that I first assume the officer is doing what they are supposed to do, which means (to me) there is more to it than what the video shows. I could easily be wrong though, and agree with everyone that the guy who made the kick should be in some sort of trouble, but what about his partners? Do they sit back while he behaves this way with other suspects?

I would think his partners would ensure he doesn't continue to go overboard, would you reasonably think that with a complying suspect your partner would walk up and kick him in the face? No. It appears it was just on the one kick, and his partners would have to file their reports in line with the video that was recorded.

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Common sense would be that the police assume there is a gun on him and that threat exists until they properly search him.

Common sense would lead police to believe there is a shotgun in the truck. Just because you have a shotgun doesn't mean you have a handgun.

Even if he did have a handgun on him, the kick was unacceptable. He was on both knees with both hands on the pavement, *if* he had a handgun he was no threat.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

I would think his partners would ensure he doesn't continue to go overboard, would you reasonably think that with a complying suspect your partner would walk up and kick him in the face? No. It appears it was just on the one kick, and his partners would have to file their reports in line with the video that was recorded.
Common sense would lead police to believe there is a shotgun in the truck. Just because you have a shotgun doesn't mean you have a handgun.
Even if he did have a handgun on him, the kick was unacceptable. He was on both knees with both hands on the pavement, *if* he had a handgun he was no threat.

The question is if this cop had done similar things in the past, and what his partners did about it. What they do about it now, especially with video footage, changes everything. I am sure this will be in the investigation. They could all be in trouble if it is discovered he had been a loose cannon in the past, and no one reported a thing.
How does anyone know he was complying?
I would think that police assume everyone is armed and dangerous and have a procedure on how to remove someone from a car. This guy got kicked in the face, I am confident that is not in the manual. I saw he was on his knees, what I don't know is what it took to get him there. There may have been a lot of yelling, a flash of a shotgun or a bunch of other stuff, none of which made the video. That guy was foolish enough to bring a gun somewhere and fire it, who knows what he did once pulled over by police (assuming he was pulled over, we don't know that either).

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

The question is if this cop had done similar things in the past, and what his partners did about it. What they do about it now, especially with video footage, changes everything. I am sure this will be in the investigation. They could all be in trouble if it is discovered he had been a loose cannon in the past, and no one reported a thing.
How does anyone know he was complying?
I would think that police assume everyone is armed and dangerous and have a procedure on how to remove someone from a car. This guy got kicked in the face, I am confident that is not in the manual. I saw he was on his knees, what I don't know is what it took to get him there. There may have been a lot of yelling, a flash of a shotgun or a bunch of other stuff, none of which made the video. That guy was foolish enough to bring a gun somewhere and fire it, who knows what he did once pulled over by police (assuming he was pulled over, we don't know that either).

What you seem to be missing, is that it doesn't matter what he had on him, or what was done up to the point he was on his hands and knees. He was on his hands and knees, he was no threat what so ever. Alas the Jedi ability to move and control objects only applies to doors of businesses (unless you're a female from Edmonton), so he couldn't shoot them using a gun with the force mind control.

He was under the control of the police, he didn't have the ability to harm them. Yet, when he was completely defenceless (he did NOT have the ability to protect himself from the boot to the face, and comply with being on the ground), he was violently kicked in the face. He could have said that the officer's father wears high heeled shoes, doesn't matter, the kick is 100% unacceptable.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

What you seem to be missing, is that it doesn't matter what he had on him, or what was done up to the point he was on his hands and knees. He was on his hands and knees, he was no threat what so ever. Alas the Jedi ability to move and control objects only applies to doors of businesses (unless you're a female from Edmonton), so he couldn't shoot them using a gun with the force mind control.

He was under the control of the police, he didn't have the ability to harm them. Yet, when he was completely defenceless (he did NOT have the ability to protect himself from the boot to the face, and comply with being on the ground), he was violently kicked in the face. He could have said that the officer's father wears high heeled shoes, doesn't matter, the kick is 100% unacceptable.

How am I missing what you wrote? I think I typed the same thing in three or four other posts. What you are missing is if the man was complying with what the officers wanted him to do (none of that is in the video). Sure, he was on all fours, but was he supposed to be? I have no clue, I was not there. I can barely see a kick to the face in the video.

I don't think he was defenseless, and I am sure cops have watched a few videos where they took their safety for granted and someone got hurt. Everyone is under guard until that guy is cuffed, frisked and in the back of a cruiser.
Go watch Cops or something, you will see that people under arrest have police kneeling on their heads, neck, back and legs. Especially if there are guns involved. I don't know if that is what they do in Canada (where are the cops on this site?).

This cop was not playing around. I also do not think his kick was justified, from what I can see.

[calumniate]

This guy should have to go against crocop as punishment

[theonlywhiteout]

Nage do you have family on the force somewhere?

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

How am I missing what you wrote? I think I typed the same thing in three or four other posts. What you are missing is if the man was complying with what the officers wanted him to do (none of that is in the video). Sure, he was on all fours, but was he supposed to be? I have no clue, I was not there. I can barely see a kick to the face in the video.

I don't think he was defenseless, and I am sure cops have watched a few videos where they took their safety for granted and someone got hurt. Everyone is under guard until that guy is cuffed, frisked and in the back of a cruiser.
Go watch Cops or something, you will see that people under arrest have police kneeling on their heads, neck, back and legs. Especially if there are guns involved. I don't know if that is what they do in Canada (where are the cops on this site?).

This cop was not playing around. I also do not think his kick was justified, from what I can see.

Well let's just say that the guy randomly went out to lie down on the pavement. That the police did not order him to do so, but he did so anyway.

How is having your hands on the pavement while lying on your stomach, without the ability to reach your shotgun or any other weapon a threatening position.

The guy was defenceless when he was kicked. He did not have the ability to put his arms in front of his face.

I like to think that the officers have training in this type of situation, which makes the kick even more inexcusable.

Of course the officers were not playing around, however that is not carte blanche to do whatever they wish.

Yes I do keep typing the same thing, as there is no counter argument to support the kick. When an alternate point of view comes up, I simply fall back on the kick was unjustified argument because it's right.

To answer your question of how do you know the officers told him to do that.

CTV's Raw Footage has better video than Global as there isn't any voiceover, you hear an officer shout "get down" and then there's the kick

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/l...shColumbiaHome

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I swear, we could have hi-def video of a uniformed cop tazering a catatonic centenarian in a wheelchair and someone would chime in with "well, it doesn't look great, but we don't know all the facts here. How does the cop know that is really oxygen in that tank. They have to prepare for the worst".

It's ridiculous. He kicked the prone man in the face for crying out loud. Do you really need a professional opinion to tell you that this was excessive?

Quick, someone trot out a cliche they heard on NYPD Blue.

Just when I thought RougeUnderoos had stopped being my favourite poster, he pulls me back in.

[valo403]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

How am I missing what you wrote? I think I typed the same thing in three or four other posts. What you are missing is if the man was complying with what the officers wanted him to do (none of that is in the video). Sure, he was on all fours, but was he supposed to be? I have no clue, I was not there. I can barely see a kick to the face in the video.

I don't think he was defenseless, and I am sure cops have watched a few videos where they took their safety for granted and someone got hurt. Everyone is under guard until that guy is cuffed, frisked and in the back of a cruiser.
Go watch Cops or something, you will see that people under arrest have police kneeling on their heads, neck, back and legs. Especially if there are guns involved. I don't know if that is what they do in Canada (where are the cops on this site?).

This cop was not playing around. I also do not think his kick was justified, from what I can see.

Are you participating in some sort of game in which the goal is to make the most mind numbingly moronic statement possible?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

I can barely see a kick to the face in the video..

So, you're stupid?

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

How am I missing what you wrote? I think I typed the same thing in three or four other posts. What you are missing is if the man was complying with what the officers wanted him to do (none of that is in the video). Sure, he was on all fours, but was he supposed to be? I have no clue, I was not there. I can barely see a kick to the face in the video.

I don't think he was defenseless, and I am sure cops have watched a few videos where they took their safety for granted and someone got hurt. Everyone is under guard until that guy is cuffed, frisked and in the back of a cruiser.
Go watch Cops or something, you will see that people under arrest have police kneeling on their heads, neck, back and legs. Especially if there are guns involved. I don't know if that is what they do in Canada (where are the cops on this site?).

This cop was not playing around. I also do not think his kick was justified, from what I can see.

Originally Posted by valo403

Are you participating in some sort of game in which the goal is to make the most mind numbingly moronic statement possible?

Wait,

Nage Waza, your name isn't Geoff is it?

[steve954]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

How am I missing what you wrote? I think I typed the same thing in three or four other posts. What you are missing is if the man was complying with what the officers wanted him to do (none of that is in the video). Sure, he was on all fours, but was he supposed to be? I have no clue, I was not there. I can barely see a kick to the face in the video.

I don't think he was defenseless, and I am sure cops have watched a few videos where they took their safety for granted and someone got hurt. Everyone is under guard until that guy is cuffed, frisked and in the back of a cruiser.
Go watch Cops or something, you will see that people under arrest have police kneeling on their heads, neck, back and legs. Especially if there are guns involved. I don't know if that is what they do in Canada (where are the cops on this site?).

This cop was not playing around. I also do not think his kick was justified, from what I can see.

I'm all for benefits of the doubts but god damn, I don't understand how people like you defend cops' actions unconditionally. Why are you trying to defend this cop anyways? What compels you to believe that cops can do no wrong? Do you truly not think the cop could have handled it better?

I would hate to be at the wrong place at the wrong time and be mistaken for a criminal and get kicked in the face 'cus I looked "threatening".

With that said, I believe that the majority of the cops are good people but like in any professions, there are bad apples.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

So, you're stupid?

Maybe you are...I was watching the video that was in the op, the CTV video is much more clear.