[News] Flames place DeSimone and Ruzicka on waivers; Both claimed

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by blankall

Unfortunately, I think Ruzicka may get claimed. I'll be a bit P-Oed if the Flames didn't try to salvage some assets, but maybe he's seen as replaceable enough no teams are offering any?

This isn't a situation where they are trying to sneak him on waivers and I can't imagine a GM would be too lazy to make some calls. Too bad he wasn't showing enough to get a Frost type guy back in return.

[gvitaly]

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. It could be Kylington, or maybe a Wranglers call-up playing on the 3rd pairing as soon next game.

I don't see the Flames carrying 6D, and 12F, which probably means there are more moves to follow, either via the trade route, or from giving more callups a chance.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. It could be Kylington, or maybe a Wranglers call-up playing on the 3rd pairing as soon next game.

I don't see the Flames carrying 6D, and 12F, which probably means there are more moves to follow, either via the trade route, or from giving more callups a chance.

I'm guessing they're clearing roster space for Kylington and Pelletier. If those two are activated and Pospisil returns, that's a 23-man roster right there.

Once a player clears waivers, I believe they have 30 days to actually send him down before requiring waivers again, so I wouldn't expect to see it happen immediately.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I'm guessing they're clearing roster space for Kylington and Pelletier. If those two are activated and Pospisil returns, that's a 23-man roster right there.

Once a player clears waivers, I believe they have 30 days to actually send him down before requiring waivers again, so I wouldn't expect to see it happen immediately.

That's true, I was just surprised it's 2 guys hitting waivers at the same time. That happened shortly after waiving Duehr, losing Pospisil, and Dube.

[Stormchaser]

I had big hopes for Adam. Sure hope he clears

[D as in David]

While I subjectively think he could have been given a bit of a longer leash in the top 9, I'm not going to be deeply saddened if he gets taken by another team. I still had reasonably big hopes for him at the beginning of this season. Even if he wasn't cut out for a 4th line role, he still could have displayed some more GAF in his game. Jankowski 2.0. Or is he Colborne 3.0?

[Stormchaser]

Well I would take Colborne 3.0 in a heartbeat for sure...that guy was awesome! If only he could have used that big frame of his

[dino7c]

I hope the Flames are good enough soon that guys like Adam can't make the team at all

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I hope the Flames are good enough soon that guys like Adam can't make the team at all

Then we'd just be complaining about the mean head coach not giving young guys a chance.

I agree for the most part though. I see Ruzicka as Jankowski 2.0 at this point.

[3rd liner]

DeSimone wasn't bad as a third pair D, was he? Especially when he was playing with Gilbert? Admittedly I've only watched bits of the last 7-8 games, not overly noticeable in a good way? I could be out to lunch, just surprised when compared with an Oesterle.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by 3rd liner

DeSimone wasn't bad as a third pair D, was he? Especially when he was playing with Gilbert? Admittedly I've only watched bits of the last 7-8 games, not overly noticeable in a good way? I could be out to lunch, just surprised when compared with an Oesterle.

He was and is a replacement level D. He had several costly mistakes in the Leafs game. Aside from that, he has been rather average. I like his game better than Oesterle. He also looked to have some decent chemistry with Huberdeau offensively during his first call-up.

Pairing                     xG%       xGF/60     xGA/60    GF    GA    +/-
Gilbert - Desimone         50.0        2.35       2.35     2     3     -1
Gilbert - Oesterle         37.8        1.80       2.97     0     3     -3
Oesterle - Desimone        37.0        1.59       2.72     2     4     -2

[dammage79]

Flames overall team defense is not good. But the 3rd pairing has been exposed far too many times over the past two months. Hasn't really mattered who's been on the 3rd pairing, they get walked, a lot.

[stemit14]

I wonder what Conroy’s plan will be if Ruzicka is claimed. Dube is likely gone. Lindholm likely traded by the TDL. That’s 3 players that have been used as centermen at some point this year. If they don’t get any centers back from their UFA trades, they likely have to shift either Zary or Sharangovich to center. Schwindt could be given the opportunity to center the fourth line.

[Flamesfan05]

Every team has their own Ruzicka and Desimone

I doubt they’ll get claim

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I wonder what Conroy’s plan will be if Ruzicka is claimed. Dube is likely gone. Lindholm likely traded by the TDL. That’s 3 players that have been used as centermen at some point this year. If they don’t get any centers back from their UFA trades, they likely have to shift either Zary or Sharangovich to center. Schwindt could be given the opportunity to center the fourth line.

Zary should be centering a line.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Really surprised Ruzicka was waived. I figured with what I expect to be a bit of a jumble of bodies out - bodies in by the trade deadline, that Ruzicka had more rope. I guess if the organization feels he has had his chance, then that's that. I expect him to get claimed - 6'5" skilled centres with a wart or two always seem to get additional looks for a while. Hopefully he clears, goes down and really works on his consistency. He is practically almost there and has shown the ability to put up points.


I don't think Desimone has been necessarily better than Oesterle, but it doesn't matter too much in my eyes. Neither of them would be claimed.



Hopefully these moves coincide with Kylington and Pelletier being ready to go.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I hope the Flames are good enough soon that guys like Adam can't make the team at all

This is a good way to look at it. The quality has to be better if the team is going to be better in the long run. Coronato got sent down, where as Zary stayed up. There has to be some expectations there and you kind of hope that Coronato takes that next step that we saw from Zary. If Ruzicka was showing more he would still be here. I remember an interview from the beginning of the year where Huska said they had conversations with him, that he needed to take another step in his game. Being sent down is a good wake up call, and unfortunately it's also a numbers game now with players coming up. Obviously he didn't do enough to make the coaches job harder. Walker Duehr is another one, who was showing flashes last year that he could be a player for us and then he didn't really show up this year. It doesn't benefit the Flames if those players aren't willing to take that next level when the team needs to play better. Too many fringe players isn't good if the Calgary Flames are going to take another step.

[stemit14]

Wonder if this is an indication that Kylington may be activated sooner than most of us thought. If not and they don’t call someone else up, the flames will be operating without a spare defenceman.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Wonder if this is an indication that Kylington may be activated sooner than most of us thought. If not and they don’t call someone else up, the flames will be operating without a spare defenceman.

I believe they have 2 home games and then a week off for all star week .

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I hope the Flames are good enough soon that guys like Adam can't make the team at all

This is a good way to look at it. The quality has to be better if the team is going to be better in the long run. Coronato got sent down, where as Zary stayed up. There has to be some expectations there and you kind of hope that Coronato takes that next step that we saw from Zary. If Ruzicka was showing more he would still be here. I remember an interview from the beginning of the year where Huska said they had conversations with him, that he needed to take another step in his game. Being sent down is a good wake up call, and unfortunately it's also a numbers game now with players coming up. Obviously he didn't do enough to make the coaches job harder. Walker Duehr is another one, it was showing flashes last year that he could be a player for us and then he didn't really show up this year. It doesn't benefit the Flames if those players aren't willing to take that next level when the team needs to play better. Too many fringe players isn't good if the Calgary Flames are going to take another step.