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Old 03-02-2024, 01:26 PM   #61
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Honestly, I think the Flames should claim him.

Hope that Kuznetsov has some chemistry with Huberdeau and/or Kuzmenko. Then, trade Kuzmenko and Kuznetsov at the deadline next season.

Won't the Flames have like 20+ MM in cap space next season.
Think they are going to use that capspace. They need a center and probably a dman
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Old 03-02-2024, 01:36 PM   #62
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We aren’t claiming Kuznetsov. We will take assets for taking his contract and giving him a platform to showcase himself before next years deadline. I only do it for a 1st.
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Old 03-02-2024, 01:36 PM   #63
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Lolllll this is def that guy but I do remember him doing that all the way to the Stanley Cup, and he was probably equally as deserving as Ovie for the Conn Smythe.

The guy is an all world talent but I admittedly haven’t paid attention to him lately so not sure how bad his game has dipped.
He also sent a slap shot into the stands in 2012 when he lost to Sweden in the WJHC. We were on the other side, thankfully.
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Old 03-02-2024, 01:44 PM   #64
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Paying a 1st to dump Monahan is one of the dumbest trades of the last 5 years in the NHL and shouldn't be used as a measuring stick.
Great. So let's claim Kuznetsov off waivers with no sweetener and complete the 2nd dumbest move in 5 years.
The Flames can own all the dumb moves!
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Old 03-02-2024, 01:59 PM   #65
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No interest in a claim but I would take the contract back if it sweetens the return on Hanifin if it is true the Caps are interested
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Old 03-02-2024, 02:00 PM   #66
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Another free player for the Oilers
Only after he gets bought out, then signed at a pro-rated minimum.

That, or it's Hershey.
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Old 03-02-2024, 02:04 PM   #67
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It will cost a first to get rid of him. My guess is he’s loaned out to Europe .
They will still pay the full salary and have the cap hit then.
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Old 03-02-2024, 02:04 PM   #68
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Great. So let's claim Kuznetsov off waivers with no sweetener and complete the 2nd dumbest move in 5 years.
The Flames can own all the dumb moves!
Or a centre at no acquisition cost to make up for selling one with a first.
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Old 03-02-2024, 02:07 PM   #69
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Paying a 1st to dump Monahan is one of the dumbest trades of the last 5 years in the NHL and shouldn't be used as a measuring stick.
It was also at a different time (flat cap)
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Old 03-02-2024, 02:08 PM   #70
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Does he have any value at 4M? Claim and trade
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Old 03-02-2024, 04:09 PM   #71
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I think the negative publicity will keep teams away. Whether he earned or deserves a fresh start, it’s an expensive gamble to make.
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Old 03-02-2024, 04:13 PM   #72
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No way should the Flames claim him. Another year left at almost $8 million. To take on that cap hit, it's worth at least a 1st round pick + a 2nd.

He is absolutely terrible

Weaponize that cap space in another way
Kuznetsov turning his game around is worth at least a 1st and 2nd round pick at the 2025 deadline or sooner
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Old 03-02-2024, 04:14 PM   #73
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Kuznetsov turning his game around is worth at least a 1st and 2nd round pick at the 2025 deadline or sooner
Which is unlikely to happen and still warrants compensation for any team acquiring him.
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Old 03-02-2024, 05:10 PM   #74
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"Can we get Kuznetsov?"

"We already have farm fresh Kuznetsov at home."

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Old 03-02-2024, 05:23 PM   #75
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Buying him out would cost 6 million in cash and take a 3.8 cap hit next year and 2 the following year, so it's a possibility, but a long shot. Since he's entered the player assistance program and cleared it, I don't think they can terminate it unless he relapsed and it got caught on video again.
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Old 03-02-2024, 05:34 PM   #76
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Needs to come with an asset. Not worth doing for free.
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Old 03-02-2024, 06:58 PM   #77
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Does he have any value at 4M? Claim and trade
Sure does and alot teams at that price will pay
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Old 03-03-2024, 12:02 PM   #78
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I'd be okay with the Flames getting him with 50% retention for FC. Or get a 1st for taking on the full caphit.

Then we can have "shirts off for Kuznetsov".
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Old 03-03-2024, 12:26 PM   #80
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Hear me out: Huby + Hanifin for Kuznetsov

I would drive the car myself.
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