06-03-2023, 03:06 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Originally Posted by Locke
It shouldnt be a contrarian opinion. He had success coaching stacked teams. That dried up real fast when he went to Toronto.
He's pretty clearly over-rated.
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I was never a huge fan but there's something to be said for winning when you are supposed to. Not all stacked teams win championships so he does deserve some credit for what he's accomplished in the NHL and Olympics. It seems like his success went to his head especially when he went to Toronto. Time will tell if he has changed or if he's still the dick he was prior to being outed.
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06-03-2023, 03:27 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
It shouldnt be a contrarian opinion. He had success coaching stacked teams. That dried up real fast when he went to Toronto.
He's pretty clearly over-rated.
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He had success in Anaheim and Detroit and led Canada to a Golf medal. He had 173 wins over 4 and half seasons with Toronto. I don't like the guy but he is a damn good coach. I mean Scotty Bowman coached stacked teams too, was he overrated as well?
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06-03-2023, 03:38 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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I was more impressed with what he did with Anaheim than what he did with Detroit. Mind you, that SC run Gigučre was in God mode for the first three rounds and then he turned into pumpkin in the SC Final the year.
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06-03-2023, 04:07 PM
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#64
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damn onions
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Even Gaudreaus dad mentioned Johnny always plays better with hard nosed coaches, and if you look at his stats that tracks.
This will be good for Gaudreau, even if he doesn’t like it. It’ll be interesting to see though if Babs changes his approach.
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06-03-2023, 04:47 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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I said it in the Trade thread, but I think Babs will have to learn to coach a more kinder, gentler style if wants to stay in the league. The media will be waiting for him to slip up again.
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06-03-2023, 05:03 PM
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#66
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#1 Goaltender
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Probably in the minority but I think this will be good for Columbus.
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06-03-2023, 05:29 PM
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#67
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Saqe
Probably in the minority but I think this will be good for Columbus.
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Well...in fairness, they were essentially the worst team in the League.
Its going to be hard for this to backfire too much and I'm guessing Babcock has lowered his otherwise historically high salary demands.
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06-03-2023, 05:40 PM
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#68
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Locke
Well...in fairness, they were essentially the worst team in the League.
Its going to be hard for this to backfire too much and I'm guessing Babcock has lowered his otherwise historically high salary demands.
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Well that and I also believe in redemption stories. He might have been an ####### and we'll see if he still is but behind that is a good coach. You're right though, Brad Larssen was awful and not much elsewhere to go but up where they were.
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06-03-2023, 09:22 PM
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#69
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All I can get
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Pascal Vincent obviously looking for greener pastures.
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06-03-2023, 09:39 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Not sure but it makes sense for them to send us #3 for Lindholm.
They are a Lindholm away from picking 10th next season.
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I agree. I think this would be a good opportunity for the Flames if they can make this trade. Picking up a young center now would fit into a retool, rebuild. Chances are he can play right away. A young guy like that might click with Huberdeau. I think the important thing is getting a coach that will encourage his progression.
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06-03-2023, 09:39 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
He had success in Anaheim and Detroit and led Canada to a Golf medal. He had 173 wins over 4 and half seasons with Toronto. I don't like the guy but he is a damn good coach. I mean Scotty Bowman coached stacked teams too, was he overrated as well?
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He also coached the Leafs to dead last in the NHL one year
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06-03-2023, 09:53 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by dino7c
He also coached the Leafs to dead last in the NHL one year
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Yes, because they tanked huge. He coached the Leafs to a #1 pick in one year, was there less than five, and still racked up over 170 wins. You can argue he is a garbage person but I don't know how anyone can argue against his coaching success.
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06-04-2023, 12:07 AM
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#73
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Yes, because they tanked huge. He coached the Leafs to a #1 pick in one year, was there less than five, and still racked up over 170 wins. You can argue he is a garbage person but I don't know how anyone can argue against his coaching success.
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I just think he might be over-rated
he won with stacked rosters (yeah I get it, who wins with #### rosters)
but IDK, I think a really good coach could keep even a bad team out of the basement.
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06-04-2023, 02:22 AM
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#74
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
Either #3 in the draft or Kent Johnson. There would have to be other pieces involved though imo.
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Literally zero chance.
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06-04-2023, 03:14 AM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Barnet - North London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
He had success in Anaheim and Detroit and led Canada to a Golf medal. He had 173 wins over 4 and half seasons with Toronto. I don't like the guy but he is a damn good coach. I mean Scotty Bowman coached stacked teams too, was he overrated as well?
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There is no way Bowman belongs in this conversation.
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06-04-2023, 08:37 AM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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I forget why we cancelled Babcock, so it couldn't have been that bad
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06-04-2023, 08:38 AM
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#77
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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I hope his first order of business is to have Gaudreau make a list of hardest working players on the team.
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06-04-2023, 08:57 AM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
I forget why we cancelled Babcock, so it couldn't have been that bad
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Not sure if you want serious answer saying he got cancelled but he's known as a terrible being.
He bullied players especially Franzen and made him play through concussions.
Mitch Marner list and sharing it with the team.
Apparently he got Commodore signed so he could bury him.
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06-04-2023, 09:03 AM
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#79
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Not sure if you want serious answer saying he got cancelled but he's known as a terrible being.
He bullied players especially Franzen and made him play through concussions.
Mitch Marner list and sharing it with the team.
Apparently he got Commodore signed so he could bury him.
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Reportedly he did the Marner list thing in Detroit too, but we don't know who the player was.
Even Chris Chelios said he hoped he got fired and it was absolutely unprompted.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1107625043956256768
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06-04-2023, 09:08 AM
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#80
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NorthVan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
I forget why we cancelled Babcock, so it couldn't have been that bad
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Nobody ‘cancelled’ him. He was a A-Hole and got what he deserved.
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