04-29-2024, 03:17 PM
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#61
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
I think the phrasing of the question is soliciting negative answers.
Trapped does a lot of work here. If you are trapped with someone I think in the implications of this question you are trapped by the man or trapped by the bear. A bear can trap you without intent by just being a bear. A man who traps you has nefarious intent.
If you rephrased the question would you rather be lost in the forest with a man or a bear I think it would trigger a less negative response.
If I asked “are you in a dangerous situation if you are trapped in a car?” I think answer is yes. The word trapped means the situation is dangerous.
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I interpreted trapped slightly differently but I see where you’re coming from. I see the word trapped to mean the person who is being asked the question is trapped in the woods not necessarily that the bear/man trapped them there. But I can see it seems like a loaded question.
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04-29-2024, 03:20 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
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“If you were lost in the woods would you rather encounter a man or a bear?”
Probably garners a different set of answers.
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04-29-2024, 03:31 PM
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#63
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
As I write this I am sitting in my MIL'S kitchen in Poland, having a basic conversation with her in English for the first time ever and she learned 99% of it from tiktok.
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My word, have some empathy. She's just learning the language. You shouldn't get bored half way through the conversation to post on CP
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04-29-2024, 03:38 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
“If you were lost in the woods would you rather encounter a man or a bear?”
Probably garners a different set of answers.
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Lost means you are in need of help though so that might bias in favour of men.
So maybe it’s just if you are hiking in the woods …..
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04-29-2024, 03:52 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Toledo OH
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Weitz
“If you were lost in the woods would you rather encounter a man or a bear?”
Probably garners a different set of answers.
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I don't think so. By probability there's only one correct answer if one's intent is to avoid the most damage physically or emotionally. The answers are just coming from people who are not 'actually' in that scenario so they have the luxury to give a hyperbolic answer to be provocative to prove a point that has nothing to do with the level of danger presented by bears in the wild.
That said woman face unacceptable risks from men in ways that most 'good' men cannot perceive or imagine because they simply walk through life rarely encountering it and because they don't encounter it themselves, they have a tendency to dismiss women who talk about it. Likely because the people they know that act creepy towards women only do it covertly.
Last edited by Cowboy89; 04-29-2024 at 04:01 PM.
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04-29-2024, 04:03 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Have these people never seen some of the victims of bear attacks? Like some of these people lose half their face because they got pawed, and require crazy surgery. I'm sorry, if I have to survive in the woods with one of the other, I'll take my chances with the human.
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04-29-2024, 04:14 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
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In my opinion, Tik Tok, as a social media platform and in that role, when talking about its negative impact to its consumers is no different from any of the other social media platforms (e.g. Facebook, Twitter). Facebook literally promoted content that promoted violence in Rohingya leading to the coup in Myanmar and has also been brought in for questioning to answer for their mining and stealing of personal data of Americans. The driver and key difference though behind this Tik Tok ban is because the US government does not have control over what is seen on it, what ends up trending on it and thereby, what Americans end up seeing more on it.
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04-29-2024, 04:52 PM
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#68
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Powerplay Quarterback
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The word trapped had me confused as well, how can you be trapped in the woods unless you stepped in a bear trap - then you need a man to help get you out of said trap.
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04-29-2024, 08:26 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: On your last nerve...:D
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man
Have these people never seen some of the victims of bear attacks? Like some of these people lose half their face because they got pawed, and require crazy surgery. I'm sorry, if I have to survive in the woods with one of the other, I'll take my chances with the human.
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I lost a relative to a bear attack several years ago. I have reason to be terrified of them. But on balance, I would still choose the bear, it's not even a split second decision.
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04-29-2024, 08:29 PM
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#70
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnie
I lost a relative to a bear attack several years ago. I have reason to be terrified of them. But on balance, I would still choose the bear, it's not even a split second decision.
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Why though? All bears are wild animals that would kill you eventually.
You think all men are dangerous? This is such a ridiculous question and no women would actually choose the bear in a real life situation. 0. Zilch.
Anyone who chooses a bear online would change their tune in real life.
Maybe some Chinese company can make a game show about this and see if any woman would go through with the bear answer.
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04-29-2024, 09:22 PM
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#71
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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I'm still hung up on picturing a guy going for a run, being close to a woman and then announcing what his plans are to not come off as all those creepy guys.
I know women live in a different world when they're alone, but from all my years of running towards or behind/passing women in fish creek/glenmore etc it's always been smiles, head nods and "heys". Not "oh **** another guy coming up" looks.
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04-30-2024, 06:56 AM
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#72
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A Fiddler Crab
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
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Edit: damn that image is huge. thanks reddit.
Last edited by driveway; 04-30-2024 at 07:01 AM.
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04-30-2024, 07:00 AM
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#73
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jayswin
I'm still hung up on picturing a guy going for a run, being close to a woman and then announcing what his plans are to not come off as all those creepy guys.
I know women live in a different world when they're alone, but from all my years of running towards or behind/passing women in fish creek/glenmore etc it's always been smiles, head nods and "heys". Not "oh **** another guy coming up" looks.
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The nod and smile is to disarm you whereas the “not another guy look” might trigger you. Just get out of her zone already.
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04-30-2024, 07:19 AM
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#74
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First Line Centre
Join Date: May 2012
Location: The Kilt & Caber
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Bears—which by and large, only attack people as a defense response when they feel threatened—have carried out 180 attacks against humans since 1784, according to BearVault.com. But when it comes to men attacking women, the National Crime Victimization Survey found that in 2006, 232,960 women were raped or sexually assaulted in the United States. That’s more than 600 per day.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-ma...ktok-meltdowns
I've come across bears in the woods while hiking, albeit not while alone, and they generally avoid us. So yeah, I'll take my chances with the bear.
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04-30-2024, 07:22 AM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
I can't stand tiktok, don't have/never will have it and blame it for a lot of the disinformation out there. Are the Chinese spying on us? Probably. But it is extremely useful for learning English. Tons and tons of useful snippets for English learners. My wife and her friends follow a lot of accounts and she credits them for helping her improve their English skills.
As I write this I am sitting in my MIL'S kitchen in Poland, having a basic conversation with her in English for the first time ever and she learned 99% of it from tiktok.
Much of it is social media nonsense, but I can credit it for anyone who wants to improve learning another language. Might be the only silver lining on that app.
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Nonsense!! We all know that when spying the Chinese prefer the stealth and subtlety of gigantic balloons!
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04-30-2024, 08:24 AM
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#76
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Participant
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Quote:
Originally Posted by driveway
Edit: damn that image is huge. thanks reddit.
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Kind of classic CP to see a question that is directed to women where women are also the primary people answering and having a handful of guys say “their answers make no sense, the question is stupid.”
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04-30-2024, 12:52 PM
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#77
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyah
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That’s the answer to the question of are men or bears more dangerous to women.
Thats not the question being asked. You need to have a metric for incidents per encounter. So in the US there are probably 2 billion encounters between men and women a day. That is probably an underestimate of how many people come across each other each day.. So you have 600 rapes / 2 billion encounters vs 40 or so bear attacks in Canada per year / x encounters.
I fully acknowledge that I have the privilege to look at it statistically and that the statistical look is not the point.
You could also look at it as incidents per population of human or bear and then humans murder at a rate of 1/20000 or so compared to bears and like 2/1000000. In that case bears are less dangerous for both men and women
Last edited by GGG; 04-30-2024 at 12:55 PM.
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04-30-2024, 01:12 PM
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#78
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary
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The bear. I'd befriend the bear and name him Ben. Then we would travel the forest as stewards.
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04-30-2024, 03:07 PM
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#79
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyah
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Shark attacks are even rarer so would you wanna be trapped in a swimming pool with a shark or a man?
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04-30-2024, 04:30 PM
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#80
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Halfsharkalligatorhalfman of course.
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