2014-15 Flames' CHL Prospects, General Discussion Thread

[sureLoss]

Carroll held to 0pts for the 2nd time this season in a 5-1 loss to Kelowna

Things got really chippy at the end of the game

3 - KEL M. Bowey, 0:51 - High Sticking, 2 min (PP)
3 - KEL T. Soustal, 4:33 - Interference, 2 min (PP)
3 - VIC K. Kanzig, 8:02 - Roughing, 2 min (PP)
3 - VIC T. Brown, 15:41 - 10-Minute Misconduct, 10 min
3 - VIC R. Nagy, 15:41 - Roughing, 2 min
3 - KEL C. Heffley, 15:41 - 10-Minute Misconduct, 10 min
3 - KEL R. Stadel, 15:41 - Roughing, 2 min
3 - VIC A. Carroll, 16:20 - Roughing, 2 min (PP)
3 - VIC A. Carroll, 16:20 - 10-Minute Misconduct, 10 min
3 - VIC R. Nagy, 18:13 - Major-Fighting, 5 min
3 - KEL R. Stadel, 18:13 - Major-Fighting, 5 min
3 - VIC R. Gagnon, 18:49 - Major-Fighting, 5 min
3 - VIC R. Gagnon, 18:49 - Game Misconduct, 10 min
3 - VIC K. Kanzig, 18:49 - Checking from Behind, 2 min
3 - VIC K. Kanzig, 18:49 - Major-Fighting, 5 min
3 - VIC J. Walker, 18:49 - Roughing, 2 min
3 - KEL T. Goulbourne, 18:49 - Instigator, 2 min
3 - KEL T. Goulbourne, 18:49 - Major-Fighting, 5 min
3 - KEL T. Goulbourne, 18:49 - Game Misconduct, 10 min
3 - KEL C. Martin, 18:49 - Roughing, 2 min
3 - KEL R. Southam, 18:49 - Major-Fighting, 5 min
3 - KEL R. Southam, 18:49 - Game Misconduct, 10 min

[Fire]

Keegan Kanzig goes Krazy.

I noticed Kanzig only has 4 points in 16 games for Victoria. I know he isn't known for his puck skills, but I was hoping to see him have more points in his 4th season in the WHL.

[dfsflamesfan]

Wait, what happened to Coda Gordon? Is he no longer a flames prospect? I noticed that in 20GP he has 23 points with Swift Current this year.

Nvm, just did a more thorough search and found out he's re-entering the draft.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by dfsflamesfan

Wait, what happened to Coda Gordon? Is he no longer a flames prospect? I noticed that in 20GP he has 23 points with Swift Current this year.

Nvm, just did a more thorough search and found out he's re-entering the draft.

He already re-entered the draft and was not selected. He is now an NHL unrestricted free agent.

[sureLoss]

Friday Nov 7, 2014

Hunter Smith was scheduled to play in Ottawa, however the ice making equipment failed and the game has been postponed.

Klimchuck had an assist in a 5-3 loss to the Hitmen
9gp 4g 6a 10pts +5 6pim

Caroll had a goal and assist in a 3-2 loss to the PG Cougars
18gp 12g 13a 25pts +2 42pim
8th in WHL scoring
has had points on 47% of Royals goals this season

Roy had an assist in a 6-2 win over the Blades
13gp 1g 6a 7pts +5 12pim

McDonald made 23 saves on 24 shots in a 4-1 win over Gatineau
16gp 7wins 9losses 2.93gaa 0.910sv%

[sureLoss]

some interesting news out of the OHL. rumors are that Josh Ho-Sang is close to being traded from the Spitfires and one of the possible destinations are the Oshawa Generals to play with another Islanders' pick Dal Colle. Ho-sang has a NTC and can choose his destination (NTCs are fairly common in the OHL)

if he was traded to Oshawa, most likely Smith's ice time would go down (assuming that Smith isn't part of the return going back to Windsor)

[Racki]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

some interesting news out of the OHL. rumors are that Josh Ho-Sang is close to being traded from the Spitfires and one of the possible destinations are the Oshawa Generals to play with another Islanders' pick Dal Colle.

I'd love to see this happen. Provided Smith isn't going the other way this move would make Oshawa a legit threat to come out of the OHL and play in the memorial cup. What a great experience this would be for Smith.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by iggysback05

I'd love to see this happen. Provided Smith isn't going the other way this move would make Oshawa a legit threat to come out of the OHL and play in the memorial cup. What a great experience this would be for Smith.

Disagree a bit here. First line ice time is probably better for his development than playing 2nd /3rd line in the memorial cup

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

some interesting news out of the OHL. rumors are that Josh Ho-Sang is close to being traded from the Spitfires and one of the possible destinations are the Oshawa Generals to play with another Islanders' pick Dal Colle. Ho-sang has a NTC and can choose his destination (NTCs are fairly common in the OHL)

if he was traded to Oshawa, most likely Smith's ice time would go down (assuming that Smith isn't part of the return going back to Windsor)

I'd presume Smith would retain his front of the net role on the PP. Don't think he's playing with Dal Colle at even strength right now.

[sureLoss]

Well the discussion is now moot. Ho-Sang has been traded to Niagara

[JurassicTunga12]

Don't know where to put this, but Hockey's Future has ranked the Flames prospect pool 2nd overall.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...prospect-pool/

[Mony]

That's awesome.

[Cheese]

^^^ Coilers at 25

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Cheese

^^^ Coilers at 25

A team that has had 11 top-50, 25 top-100, and 43 total picks, over the last 5 drafts.

[sureLoss]

Friday November 14

Klimchuk had an assist in a 6-2 win over Medicine Hat
11gp 5g 7a 12pts +5 6pim

Roy had an assist and was a -2 in a 6-4 loss to Seattle
15gp 1g 7a 8pts +3 14pim

Carroll was held pointless +1 in a 4-1 loss to Tri-City
20gp 13g 13a 26pts +5 52pim

Kanzig had an assist in the same game
19gp 0g 6a 6pts +3 49pim

Hunter Smith had an assist in a 3-2 win over Sarnia
18gp 12g 9a 21pts +5 44pim

[Gaudfather]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Friday November 14

Klimchuk had an assist in a 6-2 win over Medicine Hat
11gp 5g 7a 12pts +5 6pim

Roy had an assist and was a -2 in a 6-4 loss to Seattle
15gp 1g 7a 8pts +3 14pim

Carroll was held pointless +1 in a 4-1 loss to Tri-City
20gp 13g 13a 26pts +5 52pim

Kanzig had an assist in the same game
19gp 0g 6a 6pts +3 49pim

Hunter Smith had an assist in a 3-2 win over Sarnia
18gp 12g 9a 21pts +5 44pim

Austin Carroll and Hunter Smith are starting to look like pretty good later round picks by the Flames. Congrats to scouting efforts.

[Freeway]

Originally Posted by Gaudfather

Austin Carroll and Hunter Smith are starting to look like pretty good later round picks by the Flames. Congrats to scouting efforts.

To be fair, they were in their third and second drafts, respectively. Older players are expected to rack up points at that level.

[Table 5]

From that HF ranking.

Top 5 Prospects: 1. Johnny Gaudreau, LW; 2. Sam Bennett, C; 3. Sven Baertschi, LW; 4. Max Reinhart, C; 5. Markus Granlund, C.

I just don't see how Max Reinhart fits on this list anymore. He's one guy who has regressed in the last year for me...or at least been passed by a couple guys in terms of organizational depth. Even then, I don't see Reinhart at his peak being anything more than a 3rd liner.

I'd easily put in Poirier on this list instead of him (probably in the #3 spot), and I think you could make a pretty solid case for guys like Ferland, Wotherspoon, Gillies, and Klimchuk being ahead of him too.

[Vulcan]

Reinhart so far hasn't been able to transfer his AHL game to the NHL whereas Granlund, Ferland and Wotherspoon seemed to have been able to. The way Poirier has adjusted to the AHL is promising as well.

[herashak]

Originally Posted by Table 5

From that HF ranking.



I just don't see how Max Reinhart fits on this list anymore. He's one guy who has regressed in the last year for me...or at least been passed by a couple guys in terms of organizational depth. Even then, I don't see Reinhart at his peak being anything more than a 3rd liner.

I'd easily put in Poirier on this list instead of him (probably in the #3 spot), and I think you could make a pretty solid case for guys like Ferland, Wotherspoon, Gillies, and Klimchuk being ahead of him too.

Those rankings are from the Outdated hockeys future page that still puts reinhart as a 7.5 C. Which puts him ahead of the klimchuk and poirier rankings of 7.0 C which haven't been updated for 2 years. All 3 of Bennett, Gaudreau and baertschi are 8 C (Blue chips).