05-22-2014, 06:19 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Why isn't honey called bee vomit?
MMMMMMMmmmmmm bee vomit.
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05-22-2014, 07:04 PM
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#62
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Why does anyone care if somebody says they have a gluten intolerance? And why is everyone so up in arms over the abundance of available gluten free food?
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05-22-2014, 07:10 PM
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#63
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
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Originally Posted by Yasa
Why does anyone care if somebody says they have a gluten intolerance? And why is everyone so up in arms over the abundance of available gluten free food?
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General frustration with science illiteracy, and the spread of alternative health woo into the mainstream?
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05-22-2014, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by troutman
General frustration with science illiteracy, and the spread of alternative health woo into the mainstream?
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So? That's been happening since the dawn of humans and will be forever, but gluten free isn't really harming anybody as far as I know.
So now you have more food options to ignore. Not much of an issue to me. Some people are changing their diets and feel better about it. Maybe it's placebo/nocebo taking affect. Who cares? It's not changing how anybody else eats, so why should it matter?
Sure, there are gluten free folk that get all preachy about it, just like any other thing. If it's not gluten free, it's something else. The next time somebody talks about how they only eat natural gluten free salads, are you going to chime in about how they're an idiot or are you going to carry on with your life?
There are far bigger, more irritating, and dangerous decisions being made than this. It feels like the people here that are ready to pop out and say "I told you so!" are just as smug as those that they are pointing their fingers at. Mind you, I'm being just as smug right now so it's not like I'm the bastion of opinions.
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05-22-2014, 07:46 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
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Charlatans are making fortunes off the gullible. Governments seem reluctant to regulate. People are not getting to the bottom of their real deficiencies.
http://whatstheharm.net
http://www.prevention.com/food/healt...en-free-eating
But for the majority of us who are not bothered by gluten, are there real benefits to the diet overhaul? Not really, although some people report feeling better after reducing their intake of products with gluten. But take note: A food billed as “gluten-free" isn't necessarily healthier. Gluten-free products can be high in calories, fat, and carbohydrates, and some people who go gluten-free actually gain weight
The dangers of going gluten-free
http://www.macleans.ca/society/life/gone-gluten-free/
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05-22-2014, 07:49 PM
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Gullible people will always fall for something. Like I said before, at least gluten free isn't dangerous. It's not the same as homeopathy or anti-vaccinations.
If somebody wants to eat gluten free crackers and pay an extra $2 for them then that's their business. And at least this whole fad is benefiting those who are actually celiac.
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05-22-2014, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bizaro86
While celiac disease is obviously real, and gluten sensitivity affects some people, there are definitely those who think they have it due to placebo affect.
---Warning: Anecdotal Evidence Ahead---
For instance, one friend of mine who claims to be feeling much, much better since he stopped eating gluten a few months ago. He has a wide variety of detailed symptoms that have stopped happening to him. He was telling me all about it after work while drinking a few grasshoppers on a patio on Stephen Ave.
For those who might not be aware, grasshopper is a wheat beer.
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Haha, did he have dark rimmed glasses, a huge beard, and some super tight ass jeans
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05-22-2014, 08:48 PM
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One of the Nine
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Originally Posted by Yasa
Why does anyone care if somebody says they have a gluten intolerance? And why is everyone so up in arms over the abundance of available gluten free food?
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Let me sum it up for you in the form of a joke...
How can you tell when someone eats gluten free?
Don't worry, they'll tell you.
Frankly, it's annoying. If you're gluten free, that's fine with me. Save your breath, though. I don't need to hear about it at dinner. I don't want my dinner companion talking to me about it, and I don't want to overhear the four 30 year old women at the table behind me go on and on about "LIKE... Since I stopped eating gluten, my like, body, is like, sooooo much healthier!!"
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05-22-2014, 08:52 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by troutman
Charlatans are making fortunes off the gullible. Governments seem reluctant to regulate. People are not getting to the bottom of their real deficiencies.
http://whatstheharm.net
http://www.prevention.com/food/healt...en-free-eating
But for the majority of us who are not bothered by gluten, are there real benefits to the diet overhaul? Not really, although some people report feeling better after reducing their intake of products with gluten. But take note: A food billed as “gluten-free" isn't necessarily healthier. Gluten-free products can be high in calories, fat, and carbohydrates, and some people who go gluten-free actually gain weight
The dangers of going gluten-free
http://www.macleans.ca/society/life/gone-gluten-free/
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Charlatans are everywhere. Take a look at lawyers and what they charge.
There are far more important issues to look at then this gluten diet boom.
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05-22-2014, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Cowboy89
Finally, I'm sick of people who self-diagnose themselves with food allergies or food sensitivities. These people end up holding any common meal gatherings hostage.
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05-22-2014, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 4X4
Let me sum it up for you in the form of a joke...
How can you tell when someone eats gluten free?
Don't worry, they'll tell you.
Frankly, it's annoying. If you're gluten free, that's fine with me. Save your breath, though. I don't need to hear about it at dinner. I don't want my dinner companion talking to me about it, and I don't want to overhear the four 30 year old women at the table behind me go on and on about "LIKE... Since I stopped eating gluten, my like, body, is like, sooooo much healthier!!"
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I'll extend that a bit. Anything to do with health just drives me up the wall when it's brought up as legitimate conversation.
Oh you just ran a 1/4 marathon in preparation of a hopefully full marathon at a later date?
You've completely cut X out of your diet and that's why your ordering salad while everyone else is ordering wings on F-ing wing night?
You're tired and it's important for us to know that you would have been fine if it was just work, but you're deadest on doing a morning work out no matter how tired you are?
Really, it's all garbage to me. I know certain amounts of conversation are going to naturally be about "me", but all the health/excersize related talk just adds no value to a conversation. It's like negative value. Like the other person is standing there thinking "okay ****ing great, shut up already and let's talk about something funny or at least semi-interesting".
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05-22-2014, 09:20 PM
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damn onions
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Haha my boss constantly talks about his runs and his gluten-free diet so this thread is hilarious.
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05-22-2014, 09:22 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by flameswin
I'll extend that a bit. Anything to do with health just drives me up the wall when it's brought up as legitimate conversation.
Oh you just ran a 1/4 marathon in preparation of a hopefully full marathon at a later date?
You've completely cut X out of your diet and that's why your ordering salad while everyone else is ordering wings on F-ing wing night?
You're tired and it's important for us to know that you would have been fine if it was just work, but you're deadest on doing a morning work out no matter how tired you are?
Really, it's all garbage to me. I know certain amounts of conversation are going to naturally be about "me", but all the health/excersize related talk just adds no value to a conversation. It's like negative value. Like the other person is standing there thinking "okay ****ing great, shut up already and let's talk about something funny or at least semi-interesting".
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Seven things to never talk about. sleep, period, health, diet, dreams, money, and route talk.
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radi...511/transcript
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05-22-2014, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 4X4
Let me sum it up for you in the form of a joke...
How can you tell when someone eats gluten free?
Don't worry, they'll tell you.
Frankly, it's annoying. If you're gluten free, that's fine with me. Save your breath, though. I don't need to hear about it at dinner. I don't want my dinner companion talking to me about it, and I don't want to overhear the four 30 year old women at the table behind me go on and on about "LIKE... Since I stopped eating gluten, my like, body, is like, sooooo much healthier!!"
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Oh I get it. But again, so? So what if it's annoying? I don't expect you to lean over to another table and say "actually, a recent study has shown that you're wrong and a ####ing idiot."
It makes no difference whether or not gluten intolerance is real. All it does is give people ammunition to call others out on their bull####. But that doesn't get anybody anywhere. Like I said before, the annoying gluten free people would latch on to something else if not this. There should just be a crusade against annoying idiots for being annoying idiots rather than this. Especially since this gluten free fad has still actually been beneficial for people who have legitimate problems.
This new study isn't going to make the annoying people shut up. It'll probably just make them say "yeah, I knew all those other people were faking it. Not me though."
So we either deal with the idiots who will latch onto the next trend, or we keep fighting their dumbasses until gluten free becomes uncool and people with celiac go back to eating celery and corn starch.
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05-23-2014, 12:20 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Originally Posted by Yasa
Why does anyone care if somebody says they have a gluten intolerance? And why is everyone so up in arms over the abundance of available gluten free food?
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Because as a Chef I find it incredibly annoying to have to cater to these idiots, as with all food trends, and suddenly in the last few years always being asked "Is xxxx gluten free?" "Do you have a gluten free menu?" "I can't eat that I'm gluten intolerant"
I have zero problem catering to the needs of my guests, it's what I'm for, but when it's for some completely made up, pretentious, self diagnosed BS, it starts to get on my nerves.
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05-23-2014, 12:35 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
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Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest
Charlatans are everywhere. Take a look at lawyers and what they charge.
There are far more important issues to look at then this gluten diet boom.
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Like worrying about what other people worry about.
Lawyer fees are regulated beyond the market - can be reviewed by the Law Society, or taxed by the court. Charlatans get disbarred.
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05-23-2014, 02:19 AM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Haha my boss constantly talks about his runs and his gluten-free diet so this thread is hilarious.
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I read this as his "runs" and not his trots... I mean exercise.
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05-23-2014, 02:21 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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The only reasons the gluten "sensitive" crowd has ever bothered me is that my brother is Celiac, which is actually pretty serious and can be debilitating if he eats the wrong things, and the lack of understanding that is implemented by those who claim sensitivity.
If you don't want to eat gluten, don't, but at least know what gluten is IN, and don't argue with me when I say "oh that doesn't have gluten" or "be careful, that has gluten" because unlike most people, I have had to read through a boatload of dietary material to make sure that when my brother comes over for dinner, I don't put him in excruciating pain.
But hey, go ahead and say you're gluten sensitive for whatever made up reason you want, just leave your invention out of the conversation when people are discussing celiac and other real illnesses.
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05-23-2014, 02:44 AM
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Once had a girl tell me she might be Celiac because she can't eat steak or pork...
What the hell do you even say to that? At least research the disease if you're going to pretend to have it. Whole trend is just a giant middle finger to the people who really can't eat gluten.
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05-23-2014, 06:34 AM
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First Line Centre
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by btimbit
Once had a girl tell me she might be Celiac because she can't eat steak or pork...
What the hell do you even say to that? At least research the disease if you're going to pretend to have it. Whole trend is just a giant middle finger to the people who really can't eat gluten.
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That's incredible...
I have celiac disease and while there are some issues that come along with people not taking the disease seriously because it's often viewed as a "fad" I'd argue that the increased exposure has made my life a hell of a lot easier. I can actually feel comfortable going out to a restaurant with friends which is something most people probably take for granted.
I honestly don't care what other people choose to put in their bodies and I am not sure why it seems to bother so many posters in this thread. That being said, I'd never wish this diet on my enemy. I miss beer and good pizza.
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