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Old 12-24-2022, 09:41 AM   #7941
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Yes I would, Toffoli is good and has a good cap so he has a value. But for me he is not connecting well with our players well. A little bit slow and can't create offense himself. And not much impact maker.
Imagine Hub-Lindholm-Tarasenko line.
Toffolli has been great. Some fans just hate slow players I think. He is getting tons of chances and is one guy who can finish. Always in the right spot too. He just isn't flashy.
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Yep, his contract is basically the Tkachuk special. I don't think any team should trade for him without out an extension in place.
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Too bad too, he would be the perfect player for us if the Sharks were selling him off. Size (6'1", 220lbs), RW, plays with some power, can skate.
I wonder if there’s any way Lucic would waive to finish a half season in SJ - a place vets love to go.

Meier as a rental doesn’t bother me, and he’d also like it and produce a lot because he’d be a UFA one year earlier (though SJ maybe makes him one also).

SJ probably looks at the Tkachuk trade and wants something similar, though obviously Tkachuk’s a tier higher.
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Old 12-24-2022, 09:42 AM   #7943
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Karlsson has never been good defensively, but at this point in his career, he'll cost you as many goals-against as he creates offensively.
If anyone watched those games vs San Jose I have no idea how they could want Karlsson.

He plays for both teams most nights.
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Toffoli has been excellent this season. Don’t know why some fans are down on him
He has that problem where he makes what he does look easy, and effortless. Sort of looks like he isn’t working for it. I always felt like Jay Bouwmeester had the same “problem” from a fan viewership perspective. They get dismissed as not playing hard enough, despite performing as expected.
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Old 12-24-2022, 09:49 AM   #7945
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He is literally leading the team in goal scoring but he "doesnt connect well with our players"?

Nevermind he is 3M a year less in cap hit.

Strange comment.
I am not sure what these fans are seeing

hallucinations?

7 points in his last 4, just set up andersson for the winner, and looks dangerous around the net. maybe the only forward on the team that's been that in the o-zone all season

and when they were not scoring he showed the most frustration (because he was trying)
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Old 12-24-2022, 10:02 AM   #7946
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Toffolli has been great. Some fans just hate slow players I think. He is getting tons of chances and is one guy who can finish. Always in the right spot too. He just isn't flashy.
I think for a lot of fans, watching their own team every night, they see the mistakes and the short-comings, but for other players, they mostly see only highlights.

Watching Tarasenko every night would blow their minds - his short-comings are far worse than Toffoli's.

$3M more, for less production, and too much indifferent play.
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Toffolli has been great. Some fans just hate slow players I think. He is getting tons of chances and is one guy who can finish. Always in the right spot too. He just isn't flashy.
Monahan as a winger and right handed.
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Old 12-24-2022, 12:13 PM   #7948
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Okay, but I didn't say Toffoli is not good player. I'm my opinion if we go with Toffoli our first line RW I see he will be weaker when the games are much faster and harder.
I waited from him more during the playoffs.
So if we change him with Tarasenko, the overall production will not fall, and Blues may accept trade purpose. Otherwise we don't have trade chip may be excep Coronato.
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Old 12-24-2022, 12:19 PM   #7949
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I think the team gains far more, simply by adding Coronato to it, than it does by trading Toffoli for Tarasenko, which, not only hurts our cap, but also costs us Coronato, according to your proposal.

It's a bad proposal that weakens the team.
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Toffoli + Coronato + $2M in cap space >>>>>>> Tarasenko
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How would Patty Kane look with Huberdeau and Kadri?
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Still have the belief Coronato will have hesitations of signing with us.

But he is more valuable to the team on the ice than a trade package.

Honestly think he is the missing piece. Right shot right wing with great skating and a high motor. Him and Dube on opposite sides would be a fun line.
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Coronato will play in the playoffs this year
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How would Patty Kane look with Huberdeau and Kadri?
How would I look with a super model?

Two questions that will never be answered.
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How would I look with a super model?

Two questions that will never be answered.
Never say never. On both fronts.
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Well, maybe on one front, but thanks anyway.
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Old 12-24-2022, 02:12 PM   #7958
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Tarasenko is FA. And I fear Coronato will not sign with the team. So next year we have some cap space when Tarasenko and Toffoli and Lucic gone and Pelletier or Zary is in the line up.
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Okay, but I didn't say Toffoli is not good player. I'm my opinion if we go with Toffoli our first line RW I see he will be weaker when the games are much faster and harder.
I waited from him more during the playoffs.
So if we change him with Tarasenko, the overall production will not fall, and Blues may accept trade purpose. Otherwise we don't have trade chip may be excep Coronato.
I thought Toffoli had a lot of chances during the playoffs and just didn't finish.
But I think that affected people's impressions of him. The bottom line is he's doing exactly what his role is...producing offensively. And he's a guy that is pretty solid from a two-way POV.
I just don't think Taranseko is an upgrade at all.
But your observations were challenged because you said he "isn't connecting with other players well". The stats strongly show otherwise.
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Old 12-24-2022, 02:26 PM   #7960
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Tarasenko is FA. And I fear Coronato will not sign with the team. So next year we have some cap space when Tarasenko and Toffoli and Lucic gone and Pelletier or Zary is in the line up.
Coronato may well be ready by the end of this year, and you have to think that he and his camp think so.

But for him to not want to sign with the team (a team that is woefully short of RWs, BTW), he would not only be foregoing the chance to burn a year of his ELC this year, but would also have to wait 2 more full seasons, and not enter the NHL until Oct 2025.

If he were to sign at the end of this year, he would have his entire ELC burnt before he could even start his NHL career elsewhere.

Paranoid fans are wat off the mark here.
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