Israel declares war on Hamas

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Out of one side of your mouth you talk about supporting gay Palestinians, out of the other you paint support for the innocent Palestinians as support for Hamas (equating all Palestinians, gay or straight, men or women, adults or little babies, to terrorists), suggest those people’s lives are worth less than Israelis, and call members of the community “vile humans” that should face people hostile to them every day.

You can understand why it seems like you don’t actually care about LGBTQ people.

Part of the problem with this kind of attitude is that it is little more than “pinkwashing” or using LGBTQ issues as pawns to excuse or gloss over human rights abuses.

For gay Palestinians, the biggest issue they’re facing right now is that they are being killed by the Israeli government, their homes are being destroyed, and they’re being starved. Bombs don’t discriminate. And there is no safe passage for gay Palestinians to enter Israel or be protected by them.

Members of the LGBTQ community in Israel are also still fighting against discrimination, violence, and to protect the rights they have, especially in the face of a far right government that includes members who have expressed hatred or contempt for them. You suggest I would protest a Pride parade. I doubt you’ve ever been to one. Here’s a member of the Knesset’s view:



https://www.timesofisrael.com/coalit...-or-hamas/amp/

Here’s what the community in Israel thinks of the government, and what some Israelis think of the community:



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65754104.amp

And here’s what some actual academics and members of the Palestinian and Israeli LGBTQ communities think, so you don’t feel the need to speak for people:



https://amp.theguardian.com/world/ar...t-pink-washing

Since you care more than the LGBTQ community about LGBTQ issues and since you only frequent this thread (and can’t think of any local LGBTQ issues you care about), perhaps you can comment on any of the issues I’ve kindly presented for you?

Another wall of lies you gladly post. Took me about a second to disprove it, here you go.

“While Israel is not perfect, it’s still a safe country for LGBTQ+ people,”

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/is...ekers-um60rlks

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ghastl...ing-to-israel/

You either intentionally misrepresent people or you just bold faced lie. You babble on about genocide and famine when both have been disproven, you claim you support LGBT but then you praise Hamas for their actions. Why have gay Palestinians been fleeing Palestine into Israel if it is so bad? It's because it's still the best in the entire middle east.

You want me to comment on what "some people" think? Stick your anecdotes where the sun don't shine. Israel cares more about innocent Palestinians than Palestine's own government but here you are licking Hamas boots. I've told you about 20 times that every country in the world values it's own citizens above anyone else but you insist on setting up your brain dead strawman over and over.

[Zary's-Mustache]

Israel is such a safe place for gay people that they literally don't allow gay people to get married.

[Zary's-Mustache]

3300 hate crime incidents in 2022 against the LGBTQ community in Israel.

https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-734812

Such a safe place.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Another wall of lies you gladly post. Took me about a second to disprove it, here you go.

“While Israel is not perfect, it’s still a safe country for LGBTQ+ people,”

https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/is...ekers-um60rlks

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ghastl...ing-to-israel/

You either intentionally misrepresent people or you just bold faced lie. You babble on about genocide and famine when both have been disproven, you claim you support LGBT but then you praise Hamas for their actions. Why have gay Palestinians been fleeing Palestine into Israel if it is so bad? It's because it's still the best in the entire middle east.

You want me to comment on what "some people" think? Stick your anecdotes where the sun don't shine. Israel cares more about innocent Palestinians than Palestine's own government but here you are licking Hamas boots. I've told you about 20 times that every country in the world values it's own citizens above anyone else but you insist on setting up your brain dead strawman over and over.

Wall of lies?

I posted articles from the Times of Israel (which you also shared), the BBC, and the Guardian, all of which contain direct quotes from Israeli politicians, academics, and members of the Palestinian LGBTQ community.

They include facts which should be offensive to you, a supposed supporter of gay rights and freedoms, but instead seem offensive to you, a staunch supporter of the Israeli government.

You can make up lies about me praising Hamas all you want, but I’ve never said anything close and have no problem making clear that Hamas is a horrible terrorist organization that commits atrocities against people and the world will be better off without them.

You make up lies about supporting the LGBTQ community but you can’t even bring yourself to name one LGBTQ issue you care about outside of Gaza and instead call descriptions of the difficulties and adversity faced by Palestinian and Israeli members of the LGBTQ community a “wall of lies.”

If you had bothered to read the articles, you would have seen that acknowledged Israel being better than the surrounding countries, though with still much more work to do. So, I’m not sure what you were disproving.

Sorry you’re that offended by anecdotes from queer Palestinians. You were pretending to care about them a post or two ago, so you can see why I would be confused why you’re now dismissing them. I guess they don’t matter to you as much as you said.

[Bagor]

Bunch of depraved, sadistic, sick, terrorist cowards.

Gaza man with Down's syndrome attacked by IDF dog and left to die, mother tells BBC.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9drj14e0lo

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Bunch of depraved, sadistic, sick, terrorist cowards.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9drj14e0lo

Some humans are just despicable people.

[Fuzz]

Israel's settlement policies on Palestinian territories violate international law, the International Court of Justice in The Hague said on Friday.

The ICJ, or World Court, announced the finding in a non-binding advisory opinion on Israel's occupation of the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

The top United Nations court said Israel's "unlawful policies and practices" in those regions were "in breach of the Israeli government's obligation to respect the right of the Palestinian people's right to self-determination" and that Israel should end its presence in occupied Palestinian territories as rapidly as possible.

The advisory opinion related to the legality of Israel's 57-year occupation of lands sought for a Palestinian state. Although not legally binding, it could have more effect on other countries' opinions and bring about possible sanctions.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/icj-is...266424?cmp=rss


Not that anyone cares, this has obviously been blatant theft and murder since day one.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/icj-is...266424?cmp=rss


Not that anyone cares, this has obviously been blatant theft and murder since day one.

I believe we've already been told that *checks notes* the UN and especially the ICJ can be ignored! Unless of course, they're doing similar work against other nations that are on the non-west side.

[Skootenbeeten]

https://www.ynetnews.com/health_scie...icle/rywenhsu0


The genocide continues, now the evil Israelies are gonna fix Gazas sewers so they #### themselves to death! Diabolical!

They also will flood Gaza with food thus exacerbating the famine, Gazans will literally eat and #### themselves to death no doubt. Can anything be done to stop this? Where are the heroic school protestors when we need them the most??

[Zary's-Mustache]

What heroes!! They are fixing what they destroyed. Saints.

Oh wait...Israel is doing this because it threatens their drinking water and health with Gazans throwing their waste into the sea.

Lol never change scooter booten

[Skootenbeeten]

Shouldn't you be busy getting embarrassed in the US political thread? I know it hurts when your famine/genocide bull#### gets tossed aside by reality, it's ok.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

https://www.ynetnews.com/health_scie...icle/rywenhsu0


The genocide continues, now the evil Israelies are gonna fix Gazas sewers so they #### themselves to death! Diabolical!

They also will flood Gaza with food thus exacerbating the famine, Gazans will literally eat and #### themselves to death no doubt. Can anything be done to stop this? Where are the heroic school protestors when we need them the most??

Why are they flooding the Gaza Strip with food? Because they care about Palestinian lives and the humanitarian crisis? Nope. Have to appease the international community and avoid war crimes charges.

The goal is to flood the Gaza Strip with food, to appease the international community, and to protect senior officials from arrest warrants by the International Criminal Court," explained security officials. "Even international aid agencies are shocked that there is no humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip, nine months after the fighting began."

I’m not sure it’s because it’s translated but it reads like the propaganda videos from Starship troopers

[Zary's-Mustache]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Shouldn't you be busy getting embarrassed in the US political thread? I know it hurts when your famine/genocide bull#### gets tossed aside by reality, it's ok.

Embarrassed? Lol I couldn't care less about american politics. Literally don't even care about politics at all, never have and never will.

I care about human life and human suffering. Something israel is good at is human suffering with their current genocide. Biggest terrorist state in the world. Israeli soldiers are scumbag terrorists. If you want to support that then go ahead. I don't support terrorism unlike you.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Shouldn't you be busy getting embarrassed in the US political thread? I know it hurts when your famine/genocide bull#### gets tossed aside by reality, it's ok.

This is a little bit rich considering your last few posts before you tucked your tail between your legs and tried to pretend it never happened.

[Bagor]

Meanwhile. Despite claims that......

Originally Posted by Azure

The evidence must be overwhelming

Britain will restore funding to the UN’s Palestine relief agency Unrwa, the foreign secretary has announced, in Labour’s first major departure from the previous government’s stance towards the Middle East crisis....

... Lammy’s decision marks a rare split between the UK and the US on policy towards Gaza, leaving the US as the only country not to have restored funding.

The foreign secretary said he had decided to restore funding for Unrwa in part because of the blocks Israel has placed on aid entering Gaza. “Israel promised a flood of aid back in April, but imposes impossible and unacceptable restrictions,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...wa-david-lammy

Guess he's stating that this "flood of aid" statement is nothing more than some sort of sick warped lie in order to deflect from and carry on with the mass starvation of a population.

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[activeStick]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Meanwhile. Despite claims that......



https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...wa-david-lammy

Guess he's stating that this "flood of aid" statement is nothing more than some sort of sick warped lie in order to deflect from and carry on with the mass starvation of a population.

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The fallout of the UNRWA thing and the refusal of the poster to address it again, and again, and again, has been absolute gold to observe.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by activeStick

The fallout of the UNRWA thing and the refusal of the poster to address it again, and again, and again, has been absolute gold to observe.

You mean this hypocritical clown?

Originally Posted by Azure

Look at how the usual suspects responded to the UNRWA allegations.

Ignore, spin, move on as fast as possible and hope everyone forgets. You think they're going to be pragmatic about the issue at all? Its literally not worth the discussion, and best served to put them all on ignore.

[Nage Waza]

You guys still pretending UNRWA hasn’t been a terrible organization? They are terrible, but at this moment can be helpful to at least distribute food.

That doesn’t absolve them of being complicit in perpetuating antisemitism and when the dusts settles they will cease to exist.

Defending UNRWA is like defending Hamas, something I have no doubt your group is still cheering on.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

You guys still pretending UNRWA hasn’t been a terrible organization? They are terrible, but at this moment can be helpful to at least distribute food.

That doesn’t absolve them of being complicit in perpetuating antisemitism and when the dusts settles they will cease to exist.

Defending UNRWA is like defending Hamas, something I have no doubt your group is still cheering on.

But everything you don’t like is “like defending Hamas” to you, so it really doesn’t mean anything.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

You guys still pretending UNRWA hasn’t been a terrible organization? They are terrible, but at this moment can be helpful to at least distribute food.

That doesn’t absolve them of being complicit in perpetuating antisemitism and when the dusts settles they will cease to exist.

Defending UNRWA is like defending Hamas, something I have no doubt your group is still cheering on.

Another baseless disgusting accusation from the prince of playing the victim that he has "no doubt" that posters here are "cheering" on Hamas yet when asked numerous times to present any sort of support to back up his sick accusations has yet to do so.

He takes a piece about the UK government restoring funding to UNRWA and somehow twists it into all governments including Canada that fund UNRWA are somehow supporting Hamas. Oh and of course manages to get the antisemitism word thrown in.