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Old 10-12-2024, 11:56 PM   #7861
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Apparently it was Danielson's choice, so I can understand Why. I just hope it's short lived...

Another thing I didn't know is Danielson has been doing the past little bit without a contract. He signed a temp deal to get through this match and is now technically a free agent. I know he recently said he has no desire to go back to WWE, but you imagine he's going to get a call with a lucrative offer.
The contract thing has been well known for a while. He even did a promo about it during the Swerve feud.

I think he takes time off and comes back as a coach/producer. With him supposedly being head of the disciplinary committee, I think he's still committed to the company as a whole.

That said, money talks.
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The contract thing has been well known for a while. He even did a promo about it during the Swerve feud.

I think he takes time off and comes back as a coach/producer. With him supposedly being head of the disciplinary committee, I think he's still committed to the company as a whole.

That said, money talks.
I completely missed it. When Danielson was talking about it I didn't think it was... like... for realsies.

I don't think there is any question that he has enjoyed his time in AEW. I don't think he's looking to leave. We know with Bryan it's more than just money, but WWE is just so much more willing and better positioned to give someone like Bryan Danielson what he wants (the ability to travel and wrestle people he wants to wrestle when he wants to wrestle). They also do seem to have a very good set up for integrating former greats into training roles.

Then again, that polish in the training might be a turn off too him to. I don't know what I am arguing for at this point. I would just expect WWE to call and say "Money?"
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Old 10-13-2024, 05:28 AM   #7865
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Shawn Michaels trained Danielson right...

I don't see how if Michaels calls him and says "We want to bring you back as a head NXT trainer" and we will pay you a ton of money that he'd say no.
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Old 10-13-2024, 10:03 AM   #7866
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I doubt he goes back to the WWE, he'll want to keep the freeedom that he has in AEW, and there's also the awkwardness around his wife, who ended her relationship with WWE in a bad fashion.
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I think Danielson will still wrestle the occasional match as well, possibly in New Japan or in AEW itself. It's not a true "retirement". I doubt he ever returns to WWE as a wrestler. He'll go the to the Hall of Fame one day, and maybe show up for an occasional segment.

What is the fascination with Moxley as champion? Obviously it's likely leading to Shane McMahon coming into the company, but does anyone really want that... Also I see Adam Cole returned as a face? I guess we're just supposed to completely forget The Devil storyline and the acts he took against the roster... probably for the best.

Maybe AEW is finally taking corrective action by letting Jimmy Jacobs go, but is he really the problem with the booking... or is this all squarely on Tony Khan? At least Take finally is a champion, I wish it wasn't for the midcard belt, but better there than what's going on with Mox/Darby/Wheeler Yuta.

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Old 10-13-2024, 01:52 PM   #7868
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Another great show with a compelling storyline to finish off the show. Mox and the BCC putting the belt in a bag tells us there’s more going on. Fun show and Wednesday should be interesting. Almost feels like a reset/new season since Mox told Schiavone it’s not their company anymore. Also kept Swerve and the Hurt Business moving forward, and the other matches were solid. Take####a/Ricochet/Ospreay was another classic. Nobody does a PPV like AEW quite honestly.
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Old 10-13-2024, 01:54 PM   #7869
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I doubt he goes back to the WWE, he'll want to keep the freeedom that he has in AEW, and there's also the awkwardness around his wife, who ended her relationship with WWE in a bad fashion.
Tony Khan also told his father that if anything happens to him, to hand Bryan the reigns. Think it’s a pipe dream he ends up in WWE. He seems to really enjoy the AEW work culture more.

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Old 10-13-2024, 07:48 PM   #7870
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Last local show here had a Fatal Four Way Ladder Match for one of the titles.

Rudy Lockhart who spent time with the NJPW Dojo
Ethan Knight who is really coming along here on the East Coast, held a major title up in Halifax; YouTube made me mute his entrance.
Newfoundland Nightmare Justin Newhook that was a heel forever, but pulled triple duty last July due to come last time travel issues, and the crowd loved him for it and really got behind him
"King of Maritime Wrestlin" JP Simms the current champion and heel extraordinaire.

Great match, crowd was super hot, I destroyed my voice screaming the winner due to the crowd reaction

Last note, I thought I was moving OUT of the shot when Justin Newhook was entering the ring, apparently I moved to stay IN the shot. 1,000% not my intention. If I could ring announce from the back room I totally would.



A crappy edit of a few videos of the spot at 22:30


But the crowd from the video I *just* missed of the spot, gives you an idea of how loud the crowd actually was versus the directional mic used by Patty calling the match.
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Old 10-14-2024, 12:23 AM   #7871
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I think Danielson will still wrestle the occasional match as well, possibly in New Japan or in AEW itself. It's not a true "retirement". I doubt he ever returns to WWE as a wrestler. He'll go the to the Hall of Fame one day, and maybe show up for an occasional segment.

What is the fascination with Moxley as champion? Obviously it's likely leading to Shane McMahon coming into the company, but does anyone really want that... Also I see Adam Cole returned as a face? I guess we're just supposed to completely forget The Devil storyline and the acts he took against the roster... probably for the best.

Maybe AEW is finally taking corrective action by letting Jimmy Jacobs go, but is he really the problem with the booking... or is this all squarely on Tony Khan? At least Take finally is a champion, I wish it wasn't for the midcard belt, but better there than what's going on with Mox/Darby/Wheeler Yuta.

Probably not a popular opinion, but Danielson, I would be perfectly happy if he doesn't wrestle again, he doesn't need to, and he's just battered, why risk what's left of his functional life, he has nothing left to prove.
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Ugh, I can't stand another Moxley run. If it was Danielson's choice to drop the title, I respect that, but I wish it was to someone to 'pass the torch' too... Moxley isn't that.

AEW needs to put a bit more longevity into their main title runs. So far in less than a year we've had MJF, Samoa Joe, Swerve, Danielson and now Moxley. That's five champions over ten months. I don't understand how you can fully build these guys as main star attractions when the belts keep changing hands so often. And as everyone knows, the more a belt changes hands, the less credible that belt seems as well.
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Ugh, I can't stand another Moxley run. If it was Danielson's choice to drop the title, I respect that, but I wish it was to someone to 'pass the torch' too... Moxley isn't that.

AEW needs to put a bit more longevity into their main title runs. So far in less than a year we've had MJF, Samoa Joe, Swerve, Danielson and now Moxley. That's five champions over ten months. I don't understand how you can fully build these guys as main star attractions when the belts keep changing hands so often. And as everyone knows, the more a belt changes hands, the less credible that belt seems as well.
Moxley kinda had to win here to move the storyline forward, and because BD had to have surgery. His character has been really good on this run, and it makes logical sense that he won it. Having Shafir as an Assasin levelled her up for sure, and made the BCC stronger. Don’t think it’s done either, lots going on there.
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Moxley kinda had to win here to move the storyline forward, and because BD had to have surgery. His character has been really good on this run, and it makes logical sense that he won it. Having Shafir as an Assasin levelled her up for sure, and made the BCC stronger. Don’t think it’s done either, lots going on there.
Don't get me wrong, I like this incarnation of Moxley's character, it's more cerebral than his boring 'Stone Cold' Jon Moxley stuff... but this better be a transitional championship run. There better be a bigger story arc here to put it on someone more interesting who can run with it for a long time.
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The title shouldn't have been put on Danielson in the first place. AEW has had two title changes in immediate recent memory, each time putting the belt on a worse choice than who had it previously. I get Swerve wanted to put him over. I get that Tony wanted to honour Bryan. But sometimes its just not best for business. What did that do other than tie up the belt in a story THAT DOESN'T NEED THE BELT.

Other than regular AEW fans, Moxley has been must skip TV for like... two years. And this thread makes it seem like even they're sick of him. Why does he need the belt? Why does AEW love putting belts around the waists of performers that a majority of fans have made it clear they don't want to see, let alone see the show programmed around.
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No, the fans wanted to see Danielson with the title before he goes part time. This wasn't fan boy Tony. Fans wanted a DB run for a long time. And he personally wanted to have some bucket list matches while champ.

Moxley is a transitional champion. Even he knows that as a reliable hand.
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No, the fans wanted to see Danielson with the title before he goes part time. This wasn't fan boy Tony. Fans wanted a DB run for a long time. And he personally wanted to have some bucket list matches while champ.

Moxley is a transitional champion. Even he knows that as a reliable hand.

Sorry, I didn't mean Bryan as a champion that people didn't want to see. It was directed at Moxley.
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Sorry, I didn't mean Bryan as a champion that people didn't want to see. It was directed at Moxley.
This is a big storyline and him winning and throwing the belt in a bag is a big win. Lots of heat built up for him. Moxley has been a PWI top guy in the past, not sure why there's so much hate for him. I'll take this over the blah Cody run so far.
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This is a big storyline and him winning and throwing the belt in a bag is a big win. Lots of heat built up for him. Moxley has been a PWI top guy in the past, not sure why there's so much hate for him. I'll take this over the blah Cody run so far.

Moxley is boring as hell. The most interesting thing about the guy is his wife. When he was in WWE I was one of the people who could not understand why they were trying to shove Roman down our throats instead of pulling the trigger on Ambrose. When he left, and talked about WWE not giving him freedom to do his thing I was excited. I couldn't wait to see what he would do while being given the freedom away from WWE writing teams and McMahon.

Then he showed up as Stone Cold Jon Moxley. A milquetoast copy of the original with none of the charisma and a stink of try-hard.

I get not enjoying Cody's run. Again, that WWE has taken a cookie cutter white meat baby face MAW and turned it into the most over face wrestler in the past ten years is unbelievable. By every thought I have, it should not work. It didn't work in AEW, but here we are.

But trying to justify Moxley once again being at the center of the AEW title scene by saying it's "better than Cody" is just not real by any metric. I mean I guess it's your personal taste so it's hard for me to argue against that but one guy is over with just about everyone watching and the other guy has major fans of his promotion going "Unnnnnggghhhh, again?"
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