2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Ryan Coke]

I think the team likes Valimaki’s play in his own zone better than Kylington’s. He has definitely improved in his time, and we don’t know exactly where Valimakis game is at after the injury and time off, but I would not be surprised at all if they felt more comfortable with him playing on the bottom pair if they are both healthy.

Either way though, I think Kylington is continuing to improve and be a reasonable option if Valimaki struggles to get his game back where it was pre injury.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Bunk

I wonder too if keeping Kylington in, and developing Valimaki for the rest of the season in Stockton makes the most sense.

With the glut on the left side, it seems as though one of them is likely to be moved, unless one of them can switch to the other side.

I just cannot see Valimaki being moved with his perceived high ceiling, which would make Kylington the prime candidate. Showcasing him through the rest of the season and playoffs could bump up his trade value massively.

I'd hate to lose Kylington, but I just don't see where he fits in, unless he or Valimaki can switch sides.

I know the organization is really high on Hanifin, but I wonder if they might consider trading him before the expansion draft because: 1) he has the highest cap hit of the 3 young defense on the left side; 2) protection issues directly relating to the expansion draft; and 3) because he could bring a huge return of young assets that won't need to be protected in the expansion draft.

Or they could just keep all 3 and move Gio over to the right for the last few years of his contract and as his game deteriorates. Eventually Gio moves down to the 3rd pairing right side with Hamonic and Andersson ahead of him and Brodie gone as a UFA. Gio's hands might go in the next few years, but I think he could still be an effective defensive guy on a 3rd pairing as he ages, he's that good.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

I think the team likes Valimaki’s play in his own zone better than Kylington’s. He has definitely improved in his time, and we don’t know exactly where Valimakis game is at after the injury and time off, but I would not be surprised at all if they felt more comfortable with him playing on the bottom pair if they are both healthy.

Either way though, I think Kylington is contributing to improve and be a reasonable option if Valimaki struggles to get his game back where it was pre injury.

I am going to guess Valimaki may play in Stockton until the trade deadline and then he can come up without reducing the NHL roster. Plus Kylington can continue to play and even be showcased if necessary for any trade.

[Racki]

Originally Posted by 868904

I know the organization is really high on Hanifin, but I wonder if they might consider trading him before the expansion draft.

It's way too early to worry but damn it, this go round we are going to lose a really good player in the expansion draft.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by Racki

It's way too early to worry but damn it, this go round we are going to lose a really good player in the expansion draft.

The Flamrs are going to lose their 10th best player, just like every other team. If your 10th best player is crap, then your team is probably crap. If your 10th best player is really good, then your team is probably great!

I hope the Flames lose a great player, because it means they have nine players that are even better than that. I hope Seattle has a really tough time choosing from four or five options, because the Flames had to expose so many good players!

[GKDarts]

nm

[Geeoff]

As long as we don't do something dumb like give Seattle 2 good players instead of 1, I'm happy

[Roof-Daddy]

Man Sens fans must be hating life right now.

Dead last in the league and they don't have their 1st round pick, or any 1st round pick for that matter. Then to top it off, their three best forwards are all pending UFA's in Stone, Duchene and Dzingel, and all of them are in their primes under 30 years old.

Plus their owner is a cheap skate.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Man Sens fans must be hating life right now.

Dead last in the league and they don't have their 1st round pick, or any 1st round pick for that matter. Then to top it off, their three best forwards are all pending UFA's in Stone, Duchene and Dzingel, and all of them are in their primes under 30 years old.

Plus their owner is a cheap skate.

I would trade them the Flames first rounder right now.



For Brady Tkachuk.

[Psytic]

What if we keep Kyl, Valimaki and Andersson and go big in the offseason with a package of Brodie and a a 1st for a strong 2C. Keeps the D more cost controlled for the most part keeping all 3 young guys. Brodie is due for a raise in another year.

[Sylvanfan]

The only way to make sure you don't lose a good player in the expansion draft is to be a team with poor depth.

After seeing what happened with Vegas, I think you protect the best players you can, and just let them take your 11th best skater who's eligible. I think a lot of teams made moves to protect a certain player only to end up giving up extra assets. If you can find a good deal with a team that doesn't have good depth to lessen the impact of the expansion draft than do it.

Ultimately though, if you lose a good player in the draft, it shows that you actually have a decently deep team. Looking back at the players the Flames exposed...you can see why depth was a problem last year.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Firstly, Ottawa doesn't need to take on a salary dump to move Stone, therefore they won't unless the deal is a serious overpay, which this isn't.

Secondly, the value of Mangiapane and Neal together is still quite negative. Throwing Dube into the mix likely makes it about neutral. That's how much teams value cap space these days, especially those that aren't cap teams.

So, your offer is about, more or less, a late 1st for Stone.

It would likely take about the 1st and one of the Flames young d-men to get it done. No salary dump.

Teams will line up to trade for Stone, if he gets moved.

They traded Hoffman for a salary dump, so stranger things have happened.

[Husky]

Originally Posted by Psytic

What if we keep Kyl, Valimaki and Andersson and go big in the offseason with a package of Brodie and a a 1st for a strong 2C. Keeps the D more cost controlled for the most part keeping all 3 young guys. Brodie is due for a raise in another year.

horrible - Brodie himself is worth the strong 2C - maybe even more.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

The only way to make sure you don't lose a good player in the expansion draft is to be a team with poor depth.

After seeing what happened with Vegas, I think you protect the best players you can, and just let them take your 11th best skater who's eligible. I think a lot of teams made moves to protect a certain player only to end up giving up extra assets. If you can find a good deal with a team that doesn't have good depth to lessen the impact of the expansion draft than do it.

Ultimately though, if you lose a good player in the draft, it shows that you actually have a decently deep team. Looking back at the players the Flames exposed...you can see why depth was a problem last year.

Or just be the Panteros and Protect 4D and give away 2 great forwards.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Vilimaki and Andersson look like fixtures for the next decade...along with Hanafin and probably Kylington

i would not trade those guys...

As difficult as it might be, i think that you would have to look at trading brodie if it comes to that...

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Dan403

Mangiapane's value is not negative.

Neal's value is poor because of his contract. So retaining a portion can fix that problem.

I didn’t say it was. It just isn’t enough to overcome Neal’s negative value.

Calgary isn’t retaining salary on trading Neal.


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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by 868904

I know the organization is really high on Hanifin, but I wonder if they might consider trading him before the expansion draft because: 1) he has the highest cap hit of the 3 young defense on the left side; 2) protection issues directly relating to the expansion draft; and 3) because he could bring a huge return of young assets that won't need to be protected in the expansion draft.



Or they could just keep all 3 and move Gio over to the right for the last few years of his contract and as his game deteriorates. Eventually Gio moves down to the 3rd pairing right side with Hamonic and Andersson ahead of him and Brodie gone as a UFA. Gio's hands might go in the next few years, but I think he could still be an effective defensive guy on a 3rd pairing as he ages, he's that good.

They may do many things, but trading Hanifin is last on their list.

Don’t overthink things.


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[sureLoss]

Strange quote in this article. Flyers CEO says Flyers GM was in Calgary to scout Flames.

http://www.philly.com/sports/philade...-20190126.html

Fletcher was in Calgary on Thursday, Scott said, scouting a playoff-caliber team that is considered a trade-deadline buyer.

Since the Flames last played on Tuesday, it is more likely that Fletcher was in Calgary to watch the CHL top prospects game in Red Deer if he was still in Calgary on Thursday. But whatever more smoke to the Simmonds speculation.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Strange quote in this article. Flyers CEO says Flyers GM was in Calgary to scout Flames.

http://www.philly.com/sports/philade...-20190126.html



Since the Flames last played on Tuesday, it is more likely that Fletcher was in Calgary to watch the CHL top prospects game in Red Deer if he was still in Calgary on Thursday. But whatever more smoke to the Simmonds speculation.

No! No Simmonds!

[Monahammer]

The only thing I really want from philly is couturier... maybe konecny or Patrick. Otherwise not interested!