American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Of course they didn't. No one does.

That's the point.

Except the people you're defending did do something to deserve it.
MAGA people DID do something to deserve it.
For example attacking trans people is doing something to deserve it.

You can believe whatever horrible abhorrent crap you want, but as soon as you act on it, as soon as you use that belief to do harm to someone else, as MAGA voters have done both directly and indirectly, you're doing something to deserve it

[direwolf]

I think I need to stay off CP for a few days, unless it’s a Flames game thread or the entertainment forum. All of this insane s*** has given me severe anxiety and existential dread over the last few days, and I really need to stay away from social media right now.

Thankfully I work in tourism and I get to work outside all day and walk around in the forest, which helps.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Pot meet f-cking kettle. What an embarrassing showing from you in this thread.

There is a lot of embarrassment to be had in this thread, but it's not from me.

[Senator Clay Davis]

It's a ####ing sports team message board, this thread might not even be in the top 10% most embarrassing threads.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

There is a lot of embarrassment to be had in this thread, but it's not from me.

I think a lot of us are embarrassed of / for you right now, so that's also incorrect.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Again, you are missing a very important difference.

A MAGA voter taking about a trans person is attacking them for what they ARE.
Something they have no control over.

A CP poster talking about a MAGA voter is attacking them for what they are DOING.

What you're arguing is that a black person who hates white supremacists, is the same as a white supremacist who hates black people.

What you're arguing is that Jews who hate Nazis, are the same as Nazis who hate Jews.

Calling someone disgusting because the hold disgusting beliefs, and perform disgusting acts is NOT the same as calling someone disgusting because on an inherent trait.

In a world where everything was binary and there is only black and white, this would be true.

There are Trump voters who voted for him and not for racist or other "evil" reasons.

Painting everyone with the same brush that you don't agree with is ignorant.

Not everyone who voted for Trump is a racist. And not every racist voted for Trump.

[indes]

You need self-awareness to be embarrassed.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

It really is. This dramatic brush stroking of every person who is a Trump supporter to some villainous level of evil is disingenuous. And honestly puts anyone who talks/acts like that on the same level of stupidity/ignorance.

Be better.

Yes, every person who is a Trump supporter is in fact, a villain. We get why you don’t like it, because it’s clear you are one.

Get lost with your gaslighting bs, dude.

[AFireInside]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

In a world where everything was binary and there is only black and white, this would be true.

There are Trump voters who voted for him and not for racist or other "evil" reasons.

Painting everyone with the same brush that you don't agree with is ignorant.

Not everyone who voted for Trump is a racist. And not every racist voted for Trump.

You're the one making it black and white by saying MAGAs are the same as CP posters. You're leaving all the details out.

Everyone who voted for Trump supported a rapist. They don't get the benefit of the doubt.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

I think a lot of us are embarrassed of / for you right now, so that's also incorrect.

Lol, oh no! Torquedog is embarrassed for me! Consider me shamed.

[undercoverbrother]

[Paulie Walnuts]

Only thing Wasteyouth brings here is wasting our brain cells reading his posts.

[Muta]

Also, supporting Trump ignores the fact that he's a convicted felon and rapist, which instantly should disqualify him from consideration to anyone that has even a tiny shred of integrity, ethics and morality.

That simple fact alone makes MAGA supporters lower than pond scum in my books. Zero intelligence, integrity or empathy.

[5abi]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

It really is. This dramatic brush stroking of every person who is a Trump supporter to some villainous level of evil is disingenuous. And honestly puts anyone who talks/acts like that on the same level of stupidity/ignorance.

Be better.

You have no idea what it truly means to be homeless and nationless. No one can simply determine your fate for you. My people have lived through genocide and state persecution, and let me tell you—losing your home, your nation, is the worst thing that can happen.

We are Canadian, and anyone who challenges that is unacceptable. No one can put a gun to our heads and say, ‘Join us or else.’ We exist in peace in a relatively prosperous place, and that must not be taken for granted.

Let me be frank—I always believed in the idea of being the 51st. It just made sense. But I will not submit to a violent approach. Trump, of all people, has made me a patriot once again.

[nik-]

CP posters might be the most easily trolled people on the internet. A school of fish following the boat.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by 5abi

You have no idea what it truly means to be homeless and nationless. No one can simply determine your fate for you. My people have lived through genocide and state persecution, and let me tell you—losing your home, your nation, is the worst thing that can happen.

We are Canadian, and anyone who challenges that is unacceptable. No one can put a gun to our heads and say, ‘Join us or else.’ We exist in peace in a relatively prosperous place, and that must not be taken for granted.

Let me be frank—I always believed in the idea of being the 51st. It just made sense. But I will not submit to a violent approach. Trump, of all people, has made me a patriot once again.

I'll fight tooth and nail, if they ever come to take over Canada.

I just do not believe, at this time, they will. I believe, at this time, it's just stupid rhetoric from a pretty ignorant bully (Trump).

[5abi]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I'll fight tooth and nail, if they ever come to take over Canada.

I just do not believe, at this time, they will. I believe, at this time, it's just stupid rhetoric from a pretty ignorant bully (Trump).

Rhetoric or not, it would be a failure to ignore it.

And those magaasshats who support it can F right off.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

In a world where everything was binary and there is only black and white, this would be true.

There are Trump voters who voted for him and not for racist or other "evil" reasons.

Painting everyone with the same brush that you don't agree with is ignorant.

Not everyone who voted for Trump is a racist. And not every racist voted for Trump.

Sure, I'll grant that.
And you're right nothing is black and white.


But let's be honest and clear here, everyone who voted for Trump decided that all of the following things were true:

1) Persecuting vulnerable groups, such as trans children is justifiable under the right circumstances
2) Supporting Putin in a war of aggression is justifiable under the right circumstances
3) Allowing the dismantling of the federal government is justifiable under the right circumstances
4) Mass deportations are justifiable under the right circumstances
5) A whole slew of other horrible things Trump promised are justifiable under the right circumstances

They also did so knowing that whatever those circumstances were, whatever the reason was, it was being promised by a man who is a know Liar, Rapist, Criminal, who delivered almost nothing of what he promised the first time.

They looked at that list and decided that all of those things could be justified for the CHANCE of whatever that reason was to come to fruition.

They all voted for a person who's platform was "I'm going to make your life better, (but/and) I'm gonna hurt a lot of people to do it"

The one's who read that as "And", they are being actively horrible.
The ones who read it as "but", they did the math in their head and decided it was worth it to hurt a lot of people to get what they wanted.

Is that everyone? No
But it's the vast majority of them.
I have no issue with pointing out that people that make those kinds of choices, are doing something horrible and need to be called out for it.

[Paulie Walnuts]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1899827154898006158

[Fuzz]

Sounds like he was maybe out late partying with I LIKE BEER.