2010 NFL Off Season Thread

[ResAlien]

The Eagles have ensured themselves a top ten draft pick next year. Kolb is nothing special, and Vick isn't doing anything. Great job FO, get a bunch of offensive weapons and then get rid of the only guy on the roster who can get the ball to them. I'll admit I am a huge McNabb fan and think this is crap. Trade Kolb, jesus.

Good luck in Washington Donovan.

[Swayze11]

I think a lot of you are in "hockey trade" mode. A 2nd round pick is huge in the NFL. The 37th overall pick can potentially get you a player that can play instantly. Philly will still be good, there is no real major hole to fill for the eagles.

They have Jackson, McCoy, Celek, and Maclin, if I was a defence I would be more worried about who to cover then who the QB is. With that many weapons you don't need an all-star QB, just one that can manage the game.
They have:
#24, #37 and #55 overall picks. Those are 2-3 players that are going to make the Eagles an even bigger force.

CB, S is the only real hole but with 24 and 37 you could easily fill those holes, especially at S with 24.

I am not an Eagles fan but I don't really see why everyone is making a fuss about it, its not a bad deal.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by rubecube

What a stupid move. Trade your best player away to a team in your division so he can kill you twice a year. Nice one, Reid, you fat ing idiot.

And he will. At least for a couple of years.

Shanahan is jumpin for joy right now.

I'm calling it right now, the Redskins will win that divsion this year.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

The Eagles have ensured themselves a top ten draft pick next year. Kolb is nothing special, and Vick isn't doing anything. Great job FO, get a bunch of offensive weapons and then get rid of the only guy on the roster who can get the ball to them. I'll admit I am a huge McNabb fan and think this is crap. Trade Kolb, jesus.

Good luck in Washington Donovan.

Would have loved to see him in Denver for a couple of years. If we're going to bridge the 'Quinn era' with Orton we might as well have gone with McNabb.

That aside, I'm very glad he didn't go to the Raiders with the receivers they have.

[Joborule]

Wow, bad deal by Eagles. Especially to a division rival.

[BorqueFan]

I'm a huge Redskins fan and I don't like this trade, hes a free agent 2 years from nowand I doubt if he will stay under our o-line. A big question for me is what we do with the number 4 overall pick

Originally Posted by Swayze11

I think a lot of you are in "hockey trade" mode. A 2nd round pick is huge in the NFL. The 37th overall pick can potentially get you a player that can play instantly. Philly will still be good, there is no real major hole to fill for the eagles.

They have Jackson, McCoy, Celek, and Maclin, if I was a defence I would be more worried about who to cover then who the QB is. With that many weapons you don't need an all-star QB, just one that can manage the game.
They have:
#24, #37 and #55 overall picks. Those are 2-3 players that are going to make the Eagles an even bigger force.

CB, S is the only real hole but with 24 and 37 you could easily fill those holes, especially at S with 24.

I am not an Eagles fan but I don't really see why everyone is making a fuss about it, its not a bad deal.

I agree with what you said

[Sylvanfan]

I'm surprised that they would deal him within the Division. The Skins have not had a long term answer at starting QB for a long time, and McNabb should solidify the position for 5 seasons. I think this totally makes it so the Skins will take Russel Okung with their first pick in the draft unless the Lions grab him first. I might look for the Skins to move down a bit too if they can since the only pick they'll have in the top 100 is that first pick.

I see why the Eagles make the move, it's asset management. They are moving towards being a younger team and Kolb can grow with that group. I hope McNabb does well though, that guy dealt with a lot in Philly and always conducted himself with the utmost professionalism. He deserves to lead the Skins to a couple NFC Championships.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by BorqueFan

I'm a huge Redskins fan and I don't like this trade, hes a free agent 2 years from nowand I doubt if he will stay under our o-line. A big question for me is what we do with the number 4 overall pick

I agree with what you said

He's actually a free agent next summer.

[Papi34]

Originally Posted by rubecube

He's actually a free agent next summer.

Man defend the trade all you want but they virtually got the same value as the pats got for Matt Cassel (32nd pick last year)

I get you had to trade him I just think you could have got more and not traded him to a div rival.

What happens to Campbell.. Im gonna guess Buffalo for him

[Swayze11]

Originally Posted by Papi34

Man defend the trade all you want but they virtually got the same value as the pats got for Matt Cassel (32nd pick last year)

I get you had to trade him I just think you could have got more and not traded him to a div rival.

What happens to Campbell.. Im gonna guess Buffalo for him

Haha I never even thought about that, good point.

Maybe they keep him and bring McNabb in to "mentor" him.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Papi34

What happens to Campbell.. Im gonna guess Buffalo for him

I imagine that he becomes the back-up QB he should have been all along, but I guess there always seems to be some team out there willing to give a vet a shot despite the fact they have shown they are not a good starter at all.

[Sylvanfan]

I don't think Buffalo would go for Jason Campbell. I don't see him as being any different than Trent Edwards. With these recent moves I think it takes teams like Washington, Cleveland, and Seattle out of drafting a QB high in the first round. So if Buffalo want a guy like Clausen they'll easily get him with their pick.

[rubecube]

Philadelphia now has 5 of the first 85 picks in the draft this year.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

I realize that but when I think of the Eagles, I think of Donovan McNabb. Granted he's never won, but he lead the team to a Superbowl and is still one of the top 12 QB's in the game. There is more to the trade then getting draft picks. The largest piece of heart in the organization was just traded. Personally, I think the Kolb/Vick will do fine. My comments are more on the face of the franchise was just dealt.

I guess Oilers' fans know a thing or two about trading away the faces of the franchise.

If you're holding on to players for sentimental reasons instead of trying to better your franchise, then you're doing business the wrong way.

[browna]

Trade makes me a little envious as it has me revisit SEA's situation.

Hasslebeck should be cut like this, and he's been less of a "face" of their franchise then McNabb is/ever was by a country mile.

Of course, SEA doesn't have a Kolb/Vick type tandem in place, and who knows if Hasslebeck would get the return that McNabb got, but SEA also has two picks in the top 14 this year and plays in a division that currently has no standout QB's, and based on other team talent, could be challenging for the division regardless of who is learning the ropes at being a full time QB, for the next couple years.

Never know what may happen at the draft, but with McNabb doing what he did for PHI, and IMO still playing at a level higher then Hasslebeck, maybe the time is right to cut teeth on Whitehurst and draft a QB at #6 then stick it out with a Hasslebeck who may or may be able/want adapt to Carroll's WC system, assuming he finally stays healthy for the first time in 3+ seasons.

[KTown]

I always find it wierd when you trade within the division. Mcnabb has always been one of my favorite qbs and I never did mind the redskins. But I think they got good value for him, in the NFL you have 53 people on the active roster and the only way you can fill some of those spots instantly is via the draft. A 2nd round pick in football is like a first round pick in the NHL.

Thank god he didn't go to the Bills, our division is tough enough with the Pats and Jets.

[Sainters7]

Haha former SI writer Steve Rushin tweeted "Redskins acquire McNabb. Andy Reid pursuing a McRibb."

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I guess Oilers' fans know a thing or two about trading away the faces of the franchise.

If you're holding on to players for sentimental reasons instead of trying to better your franchise, then you're doing business the wrong way.

Weren't you the one who after the trade called Reid a fataing idiot for trading away your best player and called it a stupid move???

McNabb was the Eagles best player and he got traded within the division for a 2nd round pick (I know the value of 2nd round picks and Philly will get a player here) and a 3rd but Philadelphia had a strong team and taking McNabb off the team puts them at a huge step back. I know it is asset management to get something back for the QB since you had 3 signed but I think (with a lot of others around the NFL after looking at people's opinions) that it is a bad move for Philly. They could have got rid of one of the other QB's. You are basically telling fans that there is no chance by dealing McNabb. Eagles were a playoff team this year but won't be next year now.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Weren't you the one who after the trade called Reid a fataing idiot for trading away your best player and called it a stupid move???

McNabb was the Eagles best player and he got traded within the division for a 2nd round pick (I know the value of 2nd round picks and Philly will get a player here) and a 3rd but Philadelphia had a strong team and taking McNabb off the team puts them at a huge step back. I know it is asset management to get something back for the QB since you had 3 signed but I think (with a lot of others around the NFL after looking at people's opinions) that it is a bad move for Philly. They could have got rid of one of the other QB's. You are basically telling fans that there is no chance by dealing McNabb. Eagles were a playoff team this year but won't be next year now.

I called Reid an idiot for trading him within the division. That's the only part of the deal I totally hate. I don't know that Kolb is a giant step back. He filled in quite well while McNabb was hurt last year. If they don't make the playoffs this year, it won't be because of Kolb.

[transplant99]

McNabb has been hurt a lot the last 4 years, 17 games worth as a matter of fact, and aint gettin any younger. Now he will be behind an O-Line that was ranked 29th in the NFL last year in sacks given up, and saw their QB hit an additional 97 times. Unless Shanahan and his staff can correct that in a major way, its a pretty good bet that McNabb wont be playing a full season next year. I bet the Eagles defensive guys are licking their chops thinking about getting him twice a year.

Its pretty good value for a 33 YO QB who is on the decline. That being said, he is still 10 times the QB Jason campbell is, and should help the Skins to some degree.