[PST] Stanley Cup Semifinal: Canadiens vs. Golden Knights---the Habs win the series 4-2! - Page 39 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

GirlySports · 06-22-2021, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mathgod

Yep. It's a bit painful to think of how well the Flames played vs the Habs this season, and then see the Habs almost in the SC final.

It also kind of shows that the NHL is a series of coin flips.

Reggie Dunlop · 06-22-2021, 10:10 PM

Haha stupid Knights!

DazzlinDino · 06-22-2021, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mathgod

Yep. It's a bit painful to think of how well the Flames played vs the Habs this season, and then see the Habs almost in the SC final.

Flames didn't play like they wanted to be in the playoffs. Wasn't until we were out of it that we saw some sustained efforts. Had we have gotten in the effort and willingness to go all in just wouldn't be there.

timbit · 06-22-2021, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlySports

It also kind of shows that the NHL is a series of coin flips.

When your best players play noticeably better than the other teams best players series after series, well....

How you got in doesn’t really matter.

GirlySports · 06-22-2021, 10:15 PM

True, in the playoffs you can stick to your system and play balls-out for 10-20 games. You couldn't do it for a 82 game grind.

timbit · 06-22-2021, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DazzlinDino

Flames didn't play like they wanted to be in the playoffs. Wasn't until we were out of it that we saw some sustained efforts. Had we have gotten in the effort and willingness to go all in just wouldn't be there.

Kind of like how they played against Colorado a couple of years back...after they had the 2nd most points in the NHL regular season.

The Flames best players were awful.

Textcritic · 06-22-2021, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquatch

Is it?...

Yes, it is.

I get that many Flames forwards have underperformed in the playoffs, but get real: Suzuki has 8G and 17pts in Danault has 1G and 7pts in 31 GP. Even if we just entirely disregard the regular season for every Flames forward this is not a tremendous boost in production. Production is not everything, but it is the most important thing for these types of players, and I am far from convinced that the little run thd Habs are currently enjoying is at all indicative of longterm success.

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browna · 06-22-2021, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

That or win one more game against Montreal. Fine line

And the two Flames losses vs the Habs in those last two sets of games, the Flames played better than Montreal.

Have a Habs fan at my work and they had about as much faith back at the start of the playoffs as the " if the Flames were in they'd be bounced in the first round" dismissive narrative we are hearing now here.

But, get a bit of luck, a good set of circumstances, have opponents implode or lose confidence, and anything can happen once a team gets on a role.

Quintessential "get in and anything can happen" storyline that GMs dream about when thinking about trade deadline moves.

A very fine line.

timbit · 06-22-2021, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Textcritic

Yes, it is.

I get that many Flames forwards have underperformed in the playoffs, but get real: Suzuki has 8G and 17pts in Danault has 1G and 7pts in 31 GP. Even if we just entirely disregard the regular season for every Flames forward this is not a tremendous boost in production. Production is not everything, but it is the most important thing for these types of players, and I am far from convinced that the little run thd Habs are currently enjoying is at all indicative of longterm success.

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Danault is not there to score points. He’s there to shutdown the other teams top players. He is overachieving....

GirlySports · 06-22-2021, 10:22 PM

Backlund is Danault

Toonage · 06-22-2021, 10:23 PM

Not going to lie. This has been fun to watch. Hope they can close it out on Thursday.

Mattman · 06-22-2021, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by activeStick

So assuming the Habs make it through, they can't possibly shut Tampa down with all their weapons, right?!

Has Tampa had to face a goalie like Price yet?

He's been outstanding and is their Conn Smyth candidate hands down. Huge reason that Montreal has not allowed a PP goal in what 12 games now?

Would love to see a showdown between arguably the two best goaltenders in the world.

DazzlinDino · 06-22-2021, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by timbit

Kind of like how they played against Colorado a couple of years back...after they had the 2nd most points in the NHL regular season.

The Flames best players were awful.

It is a big problem, there is still too many i's on the team.

dino7c · 06-22-2021, 10:27 PM

Montreal is on a run...they were a bounce away from missing the playoffs. A crossbar away from losing in 5 in round one.

That's hockey

Their players will get overrated and next year many will crash back down to earth. Every year there is a team like this.

X amount of players better than anyone on our team is well dumb

they won 24 games

timbit · 06-22-2021, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

Montreal is on a run...they were a bounce away from missing the playoffs. A crossbar away from losing in 5 in round one.

That's hockey

Their players will get overrated and next year many will crash back down to earth. Every year there is a team like this.

We’ll see...their young guys get to watch and learn from Perry, Staal, Gallagher, Weber, Toffoli, Price etc.

How about the Flames young guys?

SuperMatt18 · 06-22-2021, 10:36 PM

Montreal is a bit different. They have been good since game 5 against Toronto and their underlying numbers have been good the past two regular seasons but they got bad goaltending in the regular season.

Over the last two years they are 3rd in the league in xGF% at 5v5, behind only Colorado and Vegas, and just ahead of Tampa Bay.

I’m this series They are 51.82% xGF% at 5v5 vs Vegas, so they are earning this. For reference Colorado was 40.6% and Minnesota was 45.5%. So that’s not an easy feat to do against Vegas.

They are playing sound structurally still now, but are getting the goaltending to match. That’s always a recipe for success.

Weitz · 06-22-2021, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dino7c

I'm fine

Surprised Montreal has a series lead like most people...I don't think the series is over though

Yah I figured. I do like a man with as strong convictions as you have. My book shows the same. Not all that happy tonight…

powderjunkie · 06-22-2021, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Poe969

I want Montreal to win...or Vegas to lose, the only problem is that I'm afraid this will reaffirm the whole "just get in any anything can happen" bs mentality this team has and they'll think they still have a shot at the cup.

That would be a silly conclusion to draw, which doesn't preclude the Flames from drawing it, of course.

If there's a lesson here (and I'm not sure there is) should be to not be afraid to make bold moves.

Icantwhisper · 06-22-2021, 11:43 PM

It's always been a team game, when everyone buys in you can get by without star players
Some teams are built for the playoffs, not regular season.

DeluxeMoustache · 06-23-2021, 12:54 AM

Poor Mark Stone has no superstar to neutralize. Vegas is well built to neutralize a top heavy team and win the depth battle against teams less deep than they are.

But Montreal’s 4th line has a Cup winner with a 100 point season under his belt at C and a winger with a Hart, Rocket Richard, and a Cup. And who are being called upon at their age to fulfil 4th line roles, and crushing it. Part of the veteran leadership. Also Toffoli, no slouch. Lots of pedigree

Not to mention the young guys who got some experience last year, the new young speedy skilled kids, and Paul frickin’ Byron. Anderson and Gallagher are both contributing.

Every line is contributing. Pretty much every player.

This is really fun to watch