04-18-2021, 12:51 PM
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#761
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by New Era
Actually, when there were multiple posts stating what a great game Bennett had, I had to see it for myself. So I used the handy-dandy NHL.tv subscription I have and went and watched it for myself to see this incredible transformation.
When I hear things that sound too good to be true I tend to do the research and validate the level of bull#### associated with the claims. I don't let spreadsheets tell me something that is obviously specious, I let my eyes reveal the truth. So after seeing the claims I thought it best to see what all the hub bub was about. No obsession, just like to be able to reference the facts. Try it sometime.
No, but he did #### my mistress (the Calgary Flames) with his incredibly terrible play. 
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If you’re predisposed to see faults you’ll see them from any player in the league. Sam “the confirmation bias” Bennett. You see what you want to see.
Same thing happens with both Johnny and Monny depending on who a poster prefers.
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04-18-2021, 12:51 PM
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#762
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Jesus, it's amazing how fragile some people here seem to be. The very notion of Bennett doing well elsewhere sends them spiralling.
Move on, let others cheer Benny on without throwing a tantrum everytime his name gets mentioned in any thread.
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04-18-2021, 12:59 PM
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#763
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Seems like a reasonable debate...some people are already crowning him "the one that got away"
This is the problem with Bennett, he busts his ass....sometimes and does well. Why doesn't he bust his ass all the time? Of course he is gonna play hard for a new team. Time will tell how it lasts.
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04-18-2021, 01:28 PM
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#764
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#1 Goaltender
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I didn't think Bennett was spectacular or anything but had a solid game considering it was his first one and against Tampa. Played a fairly safe game. The two assists were pretty much garbage points that he'll continue to keep getting if he plays with Huberdeau. But he did have some good plays around the net and won some puck battles.
Way too early to reach any conclusions though. We'll have to wait next couple of weeks to see if he can be something else what he was here. Probably until next year.
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04-18-2021, 01:39 PM
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#765
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I always thought Bennett would become a much better player when he moved on from the organization so it wouldn’t shock me to see him have a strong finish and typical playoff which will ensure Florida qualifies and protects him.
He was starting to put together a decent stretch u see Sutter and is using the new team as a launchpad. Maybe he reverts to the same player or maybe this fresh start is exactly what he needs? Either way I wish Bennett the best but in was never meant to be here.
How different this team would look here and up north if the Oilers drafted Bennett instead of Draisaitl in 2014? I was so pumped when the Oilers made that pick and Bennett found his way to Calgary and I have lost many bets doubling down that Bennett would be the better player.
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04-18-2021, 01:49 PM
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#766
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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I realize that a certain poster has a strong hate-on for Bennett, but it is a fair question to ask if you watched the game or not. Not all two point games are equal. He might have had a good game, or maybe had a few fortunate bounces. Either way, a little too early to crow about how good SB is with "quality linemates".
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04-18-2021, 01:52 PM
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#767
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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It's not a crime for fans to hope for success for players they cheered for after they've on from their team.
Has nothing to do with "I told you so".
I've been a Bennett fan and invested in watching him grow. Add to the fact Bennett is a favorite player that my brother and I talk about all the time because we both met him at different times and he was great to both of us, we'll its just natural to see someone succeed that wasn't a total ass hat.
And I watched the game yesterday. Well most of it, and from what I watched he was good. But it was decent 1st impression. Nothing more. Something to build on.
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04-18-2021, 01:53 PM
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#768
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug
I realize that a certain poster has a strong hate-on for Bennett, but it is a fair question to ask if you watched the game or not. Not all two point games are equal. He might have had a good game, or maybe had a few fortunate bounces. Either way, a little too early to crow about how good SB is with "quality linemates".
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Did you watch the game?
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04-18-2021, 01:59 PM
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#769
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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Sutter and Q are very similar coaches so I expect to see some growth in Bennetts play but it likely won't turn him into any more .
I'm happy for the guy. I think his teammates like him and that's all that matters.
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04-18-2021, 02:46 PM
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#770
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#1 Goaltender
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Not surprised to see Sam Bennett having a good game. First of all, it’s his first game, second of all, he had 5 hits.
I think the key to unlocking Bennett’s game has always been his engagement level, keeping it simple and being physical. I put out a few numbers a while back about the average number of hits Sam Bennett had last year’s playoffs which was 5 hits per game vs 1.8 hits this season. He had 8 points in 10 games in the playoffs whereas he struggled mightily to produce this season. How many hits did he have in his debut with Florida? 5.
That leads me to believe that the more Sam Bennett hits, the more he produces generally speaking. So. If Bennett continues to be engaged and plays with physicality, he should be fine. Although, I will say this, nobody in NHL history has averaged 5 hits per game in the regular season, so I suspect Bennett’s production will eventually drop when the novelty of the “new team” wears off. He’ll probably pick it up in the playoffs though as per usual.
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04-18-2021, 02:57 PM
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#771
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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I feel like Bennett is going to be enjoyed in Florida, after leaving Calgary, in much the same way Lucic has been enjoyed in Calgary, after leaving Edmonton.
Different expectations, less pressure to perform. I feel like Bennett putting up 15-15 seasons in Florida will play a lot differently than in Calgary. And that's okay.
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04-18-2021, 04:21 PM
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#772
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper
Not surprised to see Sam Bennett having a good game. First of all, it’s his first game, second of all, he had 5 hits.
I think the key to unlocking Bennett’s game has always been his engagement level, keeping it simple and being physical. I put out a few numbers a while back about the average number of hits Sam Bennett had last year’s playoffs which was 5 hits per game vs 1.8 hits this season. He had 8 points in 10 games in the playoffs whereas he struggled mightily to produce this season. How many hits did he have in his debut with Florida? 5.
That leads me to believe that the more Sam Bennett hits, the more he produces generally speaking. So. If Bennett continues to be engaged and plays with physicality, he should be fine. Although, I will say this, nobody in NHL history has averaged 5 hits per game in the regular season, so I suspect Bennett’s production will eventually drop when the novelty of the “new team” wears off. He’ll probably pick it up in the playoffs though as per usual.
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I don't have any stats but I bet that aspect of the game is the hardest to maintain consistently, because it's hard.
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04-18-2021, 05:41 PM
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#773
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by New Era
If Bennett is still in the NHL after his next contract I will happily let you rub it in my face about how wrong I was. Bookmark it. Look forward to it if you must, but I am confident that Bennett does not have the talent to maintain a career in the NHL much longer.
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I just can't get my head around hating a player so much that plays for or played for a hockey team that you cheer for. Such an odd negative energy.
The player didn't turn into a star, he's better suited for a third line role, but he's not replacement level because he has intangibles that keep him in the lineup.
That was proved out by another team giving up not one but two above average assets for him.
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04-18-2021, 06:06 PM
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#774
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Franchise Player
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Bennett is the new Fata. So, a player or some news is either a Fata or a player pulled a Bennett.
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04-18-2021, 07:07 PM
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#775
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
No, you did not "have to" watch a player on a team that isn't the Flames. You did not "have to" enter this thread either. Because according to you in (probably) this thread, you're only interested in the front of the jersey, and when players leave the Flames, you don't care about them anymore. These are your claims, albeit paraphrased.
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The idea of forcing people to hate a person, player is not a heathy endeavor.
Is this anything about Sam Bennett, or is this about someone taking every opportunity to mock Flames posters who want to feel good about a certain Flames player.
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04-18-2021, 07:09 PM
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#776
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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04-18-2021, 07:33 PM
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#777
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
I don't have any stats but I bet that aspect of the game is the hardest to maintain consistently, because it's hard.
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Definitely. 82 games per season, back to back nights, matchups with the Coyotes and Blue Jackets and etc. I mean, the mundanity of the regular season makes it difficult to get up for every game and give it your all each night. Ferland couldn't keep it up that intensity either, although ironically, I think Ferland might have been more skilled than Sam Bennett. Definitely better hockey sense and instincts.
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04-18-2021, 07:41 PM
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#778
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Lifetime Suspension
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I saw the Bennett highlights from the Lightning game.
He didn't do anything he wasn't already doing here (in a smaller sample). Happened to be on the ice for a couple goals that were largely generated by his linemates, made space to allow said plays as he usually does, and granted a more significant role.
Didn't morph into a 4th overall skilled superstar.
Colour me shocked that the "what if" talk is still happening here. The fat lady has finished her number, left the parking lot, driven home and gone to bed.
Bennett had a trillion opportunities to raise his game outside of just the playoffs, and a few more for good measure in just about every forward position and role imaginable. He was alright, but never showed a next gear.
Move the eff on.
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04-18-2021, 07:47 PM
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#779
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Ferland is an interesting comparison. If you look at his career, he really didn't start to pull it together until his mid 20's. The next two years will be interesting to watch from Bennett. I'm betting he takes another step.
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04-18-2021, 08:11 PM
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#780
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeyman
Ferland is an interesting comparison. If you look at his career, he really didn't start to pull it together until his mid 20's. The next two years will be interesting to watch from Bennett. I'm betting he takes another step.
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There were life reasons Ferland was a late bloomer. That and an NHL opportunity plus being joined Johnny's line. There's nothing in Sam's 400+ NHL games that suggests he's anything more than he was with Calgary. How many forwards take a huge step after 400 games? Can't be very many
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