Arena negotiation discussion. UPD: Flames release their proposal

[Roughneck]

"I have somebody who wants to build an office tower..."


Yeesh. Talk about being disconnected from what's going on in the city.

[KevanGuy]

This is not going well.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The Roman Colosseum was privately funded. Just saying.

there might be some slave corpses in it.

[dissentowner]

What? Did he just talk about paying property taxes? I thought the Flames did not want to have to pay taxes on this new arena?

[robaur]

Question:

Do the Flames need money from the City of Calgary that they don't have to pay back?


Answer:

I don't want too get too cornered on that. We are not asking the City to give us money. This is public infrastructure. Every meaningful city in the world has a gathering space, where they can get together etc.

Question:

You didn't answer the question.

Answer:

There are many different ways of pay back. CRL is pay back. It is City revitalization. That is how the City should expect to get money back. That is the pay back. CRL payback is massive etc. There are also social returns, cultural returns...etc. We are the catalyst for that. There's a lot of payback.


LOL SEAN SPICER 101......HAHAHAHAH!

[Johnny Makarov]

This has hit Sean Spicer levels.

[nik-]

This is approaching Trump level stream of consciousness.

[calgaryblood]

This is even worse than I possibly could have imagined and it was guaranteed to be really bad from the start.

[Toonage]

Waiting on an Office Space-esque "I have people skills!" breakdown

[Flash Walken]

King again talking about the ice district.

This is entirely about CalgaryNEXT

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Spoiler!

- So we pay 66%, the owners pay 33%.
- We get property taxes, the owners get 100% of event revenues.

Or in other words, they get a new building and an increase in revenue, but we pay 2/3 of the cost of the building, plus we're the actual source of that revenue every time we attend an event in their building.

Someone should walk up to the Flames ownership and say, "I want to make a jug of lemonade, which is going to cost $99 to build and fill up. Here's the deal: I'll pay $33 and you'll pay $66. In return for each of our investments, I'll charge you $5 per glass and keep 100% of the revenue, and you'll charge me $10 per year in tax. What do you say?"

[Senator Clay Davis]

Wonder what kind of thank you basket the Nenshi campaign is gonna send King, they certainly should after the tremendous boost King has given to the Nenshi campaign this week.

[dash_pinched]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Yeah but Nenshi is a jerk.

Oh really Ken?!? Well the jerk store called and they're running out of you

[Split98]

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by Bingo

What I don't get is the link between owners and King.

They can't be happy with that face on the negotiation, it plays really poorly. Do they agree with everything the guy has done tactically? If so then they are out of touch.

Or they cringe too but are reluctant to make a change because a) it will look bad? b) he's valuable in other areas for the company?

They didn't do themselves any favour in that mess.

People were saying the same thing about Lowe and then look how that ended up for the Oilers.

King's job is to advance positions that benefit the Flames. To push the envelope. To squeeze leverage points. That includes advancing positions that you know are unlikely or, at times, a stretch.

Look at the animosity King is generating. The CP thread is calling for his head. That's being launched at King and only a little bit at Edwards.

I think King is doing exactly what is expected at this point of the negotiation.

[peterh]

I hope the Flames do leave to show you guys how important they were to our city. If I was the owners I would abandon ship, this city doesn't want them.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Waiting on an Office Space-esque "I have people skills!" breakdown

I TALK TO THE PUBLIC SO THE GIDDAMNED OWNERS DONT HAVE TO.

amazing

[nik-]

Originally Posted by peterh

I hope the Flames do leave to show you guys how important they were to our city. If I was the owners I would abandon ship, this city doesn't want them.

lewl

[TheScorpion]

Ken King is struggling more in this press conference than the Oilers will struggle to stay below the cap going forward

[Lanny_McDonald]

In the time honored tradition of those who fought at the Roman Colosseum, Ken King...



... time to fall on your sword.