For serious, one thing I keep seeing is Gaudreau being referenced as a 1 dimensional player, especially as compared to Monahan. What's the general consensus here? You can probably guess where I stand, but would love to hear the perspective of others on this new and different topic.
For serious, one thing I keep seeing is Gaudreau being referenced as a 1 dimensional player, especially as compared to Monahan. What's the general consensus here? You can probably guess where I stand, but would love to hear the perspective of others on this new and different topic.
He's an elite offensive talent.
What other dimensions do you think he has acquired? Penalty killing expert? Beast in his own zone?
The thing is I don't consider that a slight. I just pointed that out yesterday in the same way I was suggesting that Stamkos isn't the best player to build a team around. Offensive players are great, but if you can pay a guy like Toews franchise money you get more for your dollar.
One dimensional is kind of a loaded term, as it makes it seem like he only has offensive skill. Gaudreau is not a defensive liability, and he is a smart player so he knows where he should be in all zones.
So in summation, I wouldn't call him one dimensional but I would also say Monahan is more of a 2 way player than him for sure.
One dimensional is kind of a loaded term, as it makes it seem like he only has offensive skill. Gaudreau is not a defensive liability, and he is a smart player so he knows where he should be in all zones.
So in summation, I wouldn't call him one dimensional but I would also say Monahan is more of a 2 way player than him for sure.
This is a great way to put it. He's certainly not 1-dimensional. Taylor Hall is 1-dimensional.
Johnny is not some defensive beast, and he's not your go-to guy when your in your own end. However, he certainly chips in defensively, but most importantly, isn't a liability in his own zone.
The Johnny and Mony long term partnership is going to be so damn exciting for so damn long. I have to crack out this gif just thinking about it:
For serious, one thing I keep seeing is Gaudreau being referenced as a 1 dimensional player, especially as compared to Monahan. What's the general consensus here? You can probably guess where I stand, but would love to hear the perspective of others on this new and different topic.
He is 100% more one dimensional than Monahan, but he's very good at that one dimension.
As Bingo said, he doesn't really hurt you anywhere on the ice (which is good).
The one issue is probably his dependency on matchups, basically dropping the ball during away games is something he's going to have to overcome if he wants to take the next step.
Otherwise he's certainly the most dynamic and entertaining player we have. It's nice watching him skate up to the net, seeing nobody open and the goaltender covering the net well, and still being able to think:
"this is probably going in."
He is 100% more one dimensional than Monahan, but he's very good at that one dimension.
As Bingo said, he doesn't really hurt you anywhere on the ice (which is good).
The one issue is probably his dependency on matchups, basically dropping the ball during away games is something he's going to have to overcome if he wants to take the next step.
Otherwise he's certainly the most dynamic and entertaining player we have. It's nice watching him skate up to the net, seeing nobody open and the goaltender covering the net well, and still being able to think:
"this is probably going in."
I honestly think that was an anomaly this season. I think Johnny's points will even out in 2016-17 without him changing anything about his game. Guaranteed 125 point man this season, back the truck up
For serious, one thing I keep seeing is Gaudreau being referenced as a 1 dimensional player, especially as compared to Monahan. What's the general consensus here? You can probably guess where I stand, but would love to hear the perspective of others on this new and different topic.
A see him pretty much as a 1 dimensional player. But that 1 dimension is hard to find and he is elite at it.
You need a balance.
I do believe that to win in the NHL you need a mix of guys. Chicago is successful because of Kane and Toews. Without one, the other is far less effective. LA's entire game is driven by the elite two way play of Doughty and Kopitar. Bergeron is arguably the most important guy for Boston's really good teams.
But a guy like Johnny is important because he's a game breaker and when you are trailing or tied late in the game, and need a goal, he can be a guy that goes and gets it.
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The guy backchecks like a beast. I mean, sure, he doesn't have the size to lay anyone out, but there are other forms of defence, and I would argue that he has one of the best defensive sticks in the league.
Not to mention the heart of a lion and a toolbox the size of Texas.
We need one of those AC videos on his defensive plays and his "play away from the play" plays.
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The guy backchecks like a beast. I mean, sure, he doesn't have the size to lay anyone out, but there are other forms of defence, and I would argue that he has one of the best defensive sticks in the league.
Not to mention the heart of a lion and a toolbox the size of Texas.
We need one of those AC videos on his defensive plays and his "play away from the play" plays.
This?
God I love that kid!
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The guy backchecks like a beast. I mean, sure, he doesn't have the size to lay anyone out, but there are other forms of defence, and I would argue that he has one of the best defensive sticks in the league.
Not to mention the heart of a lion and a toolbox the size of Texas.
We need one of those AC videos on his defensive plays and his "play away from the play" plays.
Excellent analysis. He keeps his head on a swivel in his own zone, so he's really good at keeping with his man, even in high traffic. He's so aware all over the ice. I know he's said in the past that he wants to PK, wonder if he'll get the chance, I think he'd be really, really good there.
Aside from his excellent back checking and puck stealing abilities, I think his best defensive attribute, and arguably most important given his position, is his ability to get pucks past a pinching defenseman, either by making quick, accurate breakout pass, or a subtle clearing tip of the puck. It's gotten to the point where defenders respect him so much that they pinch less, allowing him to slow the play down, work it back to the D, and give his line a change. That sort of controlled reset following a few shifts of pressure is incredibly valuable, as it can kill opposing team momentum.
I honestly don't think I've ever seen a winger do what he can do between the hashmarks and defensive blue line. That LW to C breakout pass is be one of the most difficult and important passes in today's game (especially when under pressure), and he completes it flawlessly like 80-90% of the time. He very rarely makes a bad pass from that position on the ice.
His biggest weakness from a defensive aspect is his tendency to try to do too much through the neutral zone. But almost all skill players with his sort of puck confidence have that, and it's not like Hudler / Monahan / Ferland or whoever were the most capable of puck carriers, so he's kind of the default puck carrier. This is widely known throughout the league which makes it all the more likely for him to cough it up.
Excellent analysis. He keeps his head on a swivel in his own zone, so he's really good at keeping with his man, even in high traffic. He's so aware all over the ice. I know he's said in the past that he wants to PK, wonder if he'll get the chance, I think he'd be really, really good there.
Good lord no. You don't put Gaudreau on the PK where he can break any number of bones blocking a point shot from the likes of Weber. That's what the Bouma's of the world are for. Even so, he's physically overmatched, and you need guys that can dig along the walls and out-battle guys for pucks on the PK. Yes, he's quick and crafty with his stick, but I'd be surprised if you EVER see Gaudreau out there on the PK. Just not a good fit.
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I love watching datsyuk back check and steal pucks off unsuspecting players. If he gets that down, even the threat of his back pressure and chance to pick a pocket would be a big factor. Would force a team to dump it in and then our blue liners can takeover.
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