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Old 10-19-2015, 10:33 PM   #761
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That's not true at all. By your logic, every riding should thus want a Liberal representative in the house.

The best candidate is the one most closely aligned to one's views.
It's a prisoners dilemma. Knowing the outcome Calgary woukd be better with a few liberal mp's prior to the election you would have wanted conservative mp's to hold out the outside chance of a minority.

But if pork is going to exist you want to make sure you get your share of the pork. It's the fatal flaw in the U.S. System
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:33 PM   #762
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I could just point out that the boogeyman of the NEP is much different from the reality again and again, but it's easier to just quote myself.
Quotes are usually only as good as those behind them.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:34 PM   #763
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OK Mr. Trudeau, it's time to wrap it up.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:35 PM   #765
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Calgary Centre will have counted all the votes and this speech might still be going
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Trudeau should've ended this speech 5 minutes ago.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:36 PM   #767
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Nice. It has nothing to do with the NEP, but its good to get confirmation that you're totally clueless.

Heres a quick lesson for you son:

Our province has an NDP Government with no federal support.

Our country has a Liberal Government and as yet no Federal Liberal MPs from Alberta.


No one with any sort of power has any incentive or ability whatsoever to take care of Alberta or ensure that our voice gets heard.

But yeah, keep spewing whatever nonsense it is that you think you know.

err what?

1 confirmed, 2 in a fight (Kent + Edmonton)
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:36 PM   #768
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Cliff Notes of the speech can be found on YouTube last week.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:36 PM   #769
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Gonna be a long four years
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:36 PM   #770
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Start one. You're definitely not alone, and no time like the present. There's no telling where the Conservatives go from here.
Probably regroup and come back in 2019 just like the liberals did this year after being decimated.

The difference is the CPC wasn't decimated. They still have 100+ seats.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:36 PM   #771
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Nice. It has nothing to do with the NEP, but its good to get confirmation that you're totally clueless.

Heres a quick lesson for you son:

Our province has an NDP Government with no federal support.

Our country has a Liberal Government and as yet no Federal Liberal MPs from Alberta.

No one with any sort of power has any incentive or ability whatsoever to take care of Alberta or ensure that our voice gets heard.

But yeah, keep spewing whatever nonsense it is that you think you know.
1) maybe now they will get some federal support. Trudeau may actually talk to the premiers

2) Hehr will be there!

3) Money to cities, work closer with mayors.

We'll obviously have to see but Harper talked to nobody, not even his own PC Alberta government.
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Well atleast he didn't end it with "God bless Canada"
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Good speech
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:37 PM   #774
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It's a prisoners dilemma. Knowing the outcome Calgary woukd be better with a few liberal mp's prior to the election you would have wanted conservative mp's to hold out the outside chance of a minority.

But if pork is going to exist you want to make sure you get your share of the pork. It's the fatal flaw in the U.S. System
Is poisoned pork really preferable to starving?
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Heres a quick lesson for you son:

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Does anyone ever continue listening after they hear "son" or "my boy.."

Many find the terms condescending And often cease listening
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:37 PM   #776
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Cliff Notes of the speech can be found on YouTube last week.
Yeah, he was using a lot of his ad soundbites in that speech.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:37 PM   #777
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CBC has len webber "unelected" now.

that race isn't over yet.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:37 PM   #778
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This is showing that voter turnout is only around 55%. Does this included advanced polling? If it does, the numbers are lower than previous elections which is really quite surprising.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:38 PM   #779
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Only partly. The ability to represent your riding in government also has to be a concern.



However, now that we have a liberal government, the potential of having effective representation in a liberal majority government by people like Grant and Hehr is something we should all want, even if you'd rather a different party was governing, and a different candidate representing you within that government.

I don't feel like my riding was particularly well represented even when Conservatives were in power. This basically changes nothing, except that the MPs are now maybe a smidgen less beholden to the party leadership.
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I have no representation in the Federal government, hopefully that won't be as bad as I think it will.
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