CP Mafia 4 - The Unknown Host - Game Over!

[Oling_Roachinen]

Oh nevermind, I get what you're saying.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by GGG

This is bad for the town and echoes girlies they don't know what I'm thinking arguement from last game in which she flipped scum.

SebC is climbing hire onto the scum list

I also started this game with they dont know what im thinking. I argued not revealing the spore. Then they said they gave it to me.

This game and last game are really different though.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Okay, this reads as GirlySports make a fake reveal..

How else would we confirm town here?

When we lynch her and she flips as infected town.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Okay, this reads as GirlySports make a fake reveal..

How else would we confirm town here?

Well, that's an odd read. She'd be confirmed town the same way ActiveStick is confirmed town.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

When we lynch her and she flips as infected town.

Yeah I figured ha. On mobile, didn't scroll down. SebC, we already all know this stuff, it's why we give deathposts

[SebC]

One thing I feel GirlySports has given us that is valuable is the idea of voting on where to send to spore.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by SebC

GirlySports, you are one vote away from hammer. I'd like to use up the full clock, but I can only speak for myself. If this is your deathbed post, I want to impress on you that you can, and should, try to give us more. If you are who you say you are, you might soon to become a confirmed townie. Your thoughts would become far more valuable, and you can still win in the afterlife. Heck, you can put us all in a random order, and if you're confirmed town, at least if we want a random target we can use it.

Death is, in a way, an opportunity. I feel you aren't going far enough to take advantage.

Other then everyone is sure that im infected, host or best to sacrifice there isnt much going on. I am suspecious of ECF so I voted that way.

I dont know what else i can say. Ive supported Oling as town and belived that he gave me the spore. I dont have the spore right now so I didnt get turned. Ive offered the town to decide where to send the spore. If I were turned Id definately wait for a message tonight.

Do you have any questions?

[Party Elephant]

vote: hockeyguy15
This vote has me questioning the direction of the group as a whole. I think we've been manipulated too easily into this very specific strategy of voting on a potential spore holder that hinges entirely on taking one poster at his word. I've already laid out how us lynching girly and investigating oling could have us come up empty handed while also losing track of the spore, as if we're even sure where it was in the first place. With the way hockeyguy is forcing the vote on girly, I have to think he's steering he group in the wrong direction.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Do you have any questions?

- What are your thoughts on each player in the game?
- If you had to rank us from most scummy to least scummy, what would that ranking look like? (Beyond ECF first, of course.)

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Party Elephant

vote: hockeyguy15
This vote has me questioning the direction of the group as a whole. I think we've been manipulated too easily into this very specific strategy of voting on a potential spore holder that hinges entirely on taking one poster at his word. I've already laid out how us lynching girly and investigating oling could have us come up empty handed while also losing track of the spore, as if we're even sure where it was in the first place. With the way hockeyguy is forcing the vote on girly, I have to think he's steering he group in the wrong direction.

So you are saying a Oling and Hockeyguy are Hosts?

Because Oling turned, lynch girly leads to oling dying.

OLing Host, HG turned. That could make sense but why would HG be active on a girly lynch then. Just let nature take its course or better let the agent burn an investigation on girly while the spore goes elsewhere.

So I'm left with your position being HG host Oling host spore elsewhere. I don't see both coming out this active this early. Even last game HG wasn't full out the way both are this time.

[Party Elephant]

Originally Posted by GGG

So you are saying a Oling and Hockeyguy are Hosts?

Because Oling turned, lynch girly leads to oling dying.

OLing Host, HG turned. That could make sense but why would HG be active on a girly lynch then. Just let nature take its course or better let the agent burn an investigation on girly while the spore goes elsewhere.

So I'm left with your position being HG host Oling host spore elsewhere. I don't see both coming out this active this early. Even last game HG wasn't full out the way both are this time.

I can't speak for what happened last game but if the strategy is different than what you, a known experienced player, expects, does that not make it a good strategy?

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Party Elephant

vote: hockeyguy15
This vote has me questioning the direction of the group as a whole. I think we've been manipulated too easily into this very specific strategy of voting on a potential spore holder that hinges entirely on taking one poster at his word. I've already laid out how us lynching girly and investigating oling could have us come up empty handed while also losing track of the spore, as if we're even sure where it was in the first place. With the way hockeyguy is forcing the vote on girly, I have to think he's steering he group in the wrong direction.

So we should then trust That Girly is telling the truth? Doesn't that whole point hinge on taking one poster for their word?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by SebC

- What are your thoughts on each player in the game?
- If you had to rank us from most scummy to least scummy, what would that ranking look like? (Beyond ECF first, of course.)

It's really hard to say because there has been absolutely no discussion on anything else other than the Oling/Girly situation.

I'll give the newbies the benefit of the doubt so I think that the players from Smash Bros. have been very quiet are.

East Coast Flame
mrkajz44
squiggs96
dissentowner

Those are my top 4. They are just letting the rest argue with each other.

Of the newbies I'd have to place Peanut as more scummy ahead of LegoMan and Party Elephant

The rest I have no suspicions at the moment due to good activity and lively debate. Pretty sure at least one is mafia making noise but can't differentiate yet.
devo22
Timbo
bizaro86
Puxlut
GGG
SebC
Hockeyguy15
Oling_Roachinen

So if you forced me to pick 3 players as the host team it would be.

ECF, squiggs96 and Timbo (as the noise maker)

[Oling_Roachinen]

Unvote
Vote: Timbo

I like GirlySports list and GGG's logic isn't wrong if she's turned.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Unvote
Vote: Timbo

I like GirlySports list and GGG's logic isn't wrong if she's turned.

Interesting...What changed?

[Party Elephant]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

So we should then trust That Girly is telling the truth? Doesn't that whole point hinge on taking one poster for their word?

If it's one person's word against another I have a hard time trusting either of them. Not trusting oling doesn't mean I automatically trust girly.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Party Elephant

If it's one person's word against another I have a hard time trusting either of them. Not trusting oling doesn't mean I automatically trust girly.

You have to trust at least one of them.

Either Oling did or didn't give her the spore, and she is either infected or not. If you trut neither than you should have no issue lynching either of them.

[Timbo]

I like the way this disscussion is going. Finally we get input from more than the
bunch of us loudmouths. I hope that just because it is the weekend that players don't dissapear.
Girly I like the fight you finally showed. I was waiting for it.
Oling goes 180... amazing eh?
We have lots of time to work this out.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Interesting...What changed?

As long as I trust the Government Agent isn't going to be stupid, either GirlySports dies tonight or we'll have an interesting tomorrow.

Timbo was always my favourite for Scum, just as the first spore-holder I wanted to go for someone who had a bit more town-support (anti-support?) so GirlySports, who was also near the top of my list, made a bit more sense as yesterday's other lynchee. I also wanted a vote (and even another for Spore-target) because I'm pessimistic and think this game can last a very short time with some bad luck for town. So the more votes/information we have while I know there's only 1 potentially turned, the better we're off, I thought it made sense.

GGG's right about the scenarios, and Timbo would be my 'other'.

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Timbo - ...He is my top choice for scum, but he's not the town's top choice.

GirlySports could be playing some reverse-psychology with that list knowing she was about to be revealed Turned/Host, but that matches up a lot with how I'm feeling so I'm somewhat thinking we're on the same page.

Then again her reaction of calling me "confirmed town", and then wanting to lynch me, and then not, and then 'knowing' she has the spore has me skeptical.

All I know is she has the Spore and I don't trust Timbo more than I don't trust her.

[GirlySports]

I don't want to lynch you Oling, I was just asking devo that by his logic why doesn't he lynch you and investigate me, would it be any different?