The view of him being a bust?? Whose view was that? Certainly heard risky, off the board, but bust at the time he was drafted?? Who has said that besides you?
What?
There were ton if questions about him at draft time and many people said he could be boom or bust and his potential to bust with his low level of league was fairly high.
Certainly were a lot more than just me talking about his potential to bust.
I think he had a good solid, developmental season.
Next year I want to see him move back to C, I want to see at least .75PPG, and I want to see a stronger player who is more able to handle the physicality.
There was an article in the Ottawa Sun a while back talking about the Senators and how players were eating 5000-6000 calories per day JUST to MAINTAIN their current playing weight.
So if you want to gain weight during the season, add another 2,000 calories per day.
Much better to expect him to gain another 15lbs in the off-season.
And please, there is no such thing as a metabolism that can keep someone with a well thought out diet and a good workout plan from gaining weight.
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he was at 175 at the start of the season, I think. Eliteprospects and ESPN both have him at 183 right now. When he was drafted, they had him at 168 on NHL.com ... so if he indeed is in the 180-185 range right now, that's good progress in my book.
thanks for the updates good to see the kid is starting to grow into his frame. At 6'3 there is some good potential. Maybe after his Jr season we see him with the Heat.
There was an article in the Ottawa Sun a while back talking about the Senators and how players were eating 5000-6000 calories per day JUST to MAINTAIN their current playing weight.
So if you want to gain weight during the season, add another 2,000 calories per day.
Much better to expect him to gain another 15lbs in the off-season.
And please, there is no such thing as a metabolism that can keep someone with a well thought out diet and a good workout plan from gaining weight.
For interest's sake, I'm trying to find that article, but I can't find it... Any idea when the story was written?
Thank you.
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There was an article in the Ottawa Sun a while back talking about the Senators and how players were eating 5000-6000 calories per day JUST to MAINTAIN their current playing weight.
So if you want to gain weight during the season, add another 2,000 calories per day.
Much better to expect him to gain another 15lbs in the off-season.
And please, there is no such thing as a metabolism that can keep someone with a well thought out diet and a good workout plan from gaining weight.
Agreed. Muscle and weight are not the same thing though
There were ton if questions about him at draft time and many people said he could be boom or bust and his potential to bust with his low level of league was fairly high.
Certainly were a lot more than just me talking about his potential to bust.
Potential to bust - absolutely. But you wrote that he was viewed as a bust - big difference.
It's an interesting question. While NCAA teams have players who are older, I think the talent gap isn't even close, the CHL is much better and deeper as demonstrated by the NHL draft. Cream of the crop from Canada goes CHL and cream of the crop from the States goes NCAA. Not much of a competition for me. If the best CHL team (Halifax) was gearing up to face the best NCAA team (Yale) they'd drop their 15 and 16 year olds and pummel them. I don't think over a 7 game series that would be even close. Some NCAA teams could for sure beat some CHL teams but high end vs high end would be a blowout.
Age evens it out a little but then the NCAA players on average are much less physical, wear those big cage visors and have no fighting - if they had to play a series with CHL rules they'd be well out of their comfort level, if it was NCAA rules maybe they'd have a chance...
NCAA teams would beat every CHL team (most of the time). They are just older. Its men vs boys. If you placed the teams at the same age the CHL teams would win, but the NCAA teams beat the CIS teams out East most of the time when they play and those teams are all CHL graduates. They'd just overwhelm the 3rd and 4th lines guys.
NCAA teams would beat every CHL team (most of the time). They are just older. Its men vs boys. If you placed the teams at the same age the CHL teams would win, but the NCAA teams beat the CIS teams out East most of the time when they play and those teams are all CHL graduates. They'd just overwhelm the 3rd and 4th lines guys.
These CIS teams are made up of the 3rd and 4th lines from the CHL who have little future in hockey, so your comparison doesn't mean much.
The Canadian world junior team usually play a game vs some CIS players during selection camp. From my memory I think the juniors have won a couple and the CIS also won at least one. I think a CIS team would win rather easy against most CHL teams. NCAA teams I think would also fall into that category. I think the older players play a more structured game.
In regards to the NCAA-CHL debate, it's boys vs. men. The youngest players on a NCAA team are 18 (turning 19) years old, which are usually about halfway through a CHL players development. Forget about talent, you're dressing a team of 18-19 year olds against a team of 22-24 year olds. In a league with comparable skill, that size and experience would win.
That's not a great comparison, because it's 20 CIS guys (usually from one team) who play together a LOT, versus 20 CHL guys who haven't played together for more than two or thre days.
That's not a great comparison, because it's 20 CIS guys (usually from one team) who play together a LOT, versus 20 CHL guys who haven't played together for more than two or thre days.
Age and guile beat youth and ability!
Seriously, IIRC, in the days of the previous incarnation of the Oil Kings, there was a regular meeting of the Oil Kings vs the U of A Golden Bears, and the Jr team usually (maybe always) lost. It's 16-20 year olds vs 18-24 year olds.
These CIS teams are made up of the 3rd and 4th lines from the CHL who have little future in hockey, so your comparison doesn't mean much.
The better teams are not full of 3rd and 4th line guys. Most CHL teams are not turning out 6 forwards to the pros. They are good CHL players but lacking something (size, skating, late bloomer) to go pro. Now the garbage teams are full of lower tier CHL guys and non-CHL players.
The better teams are not full of 3rd and 4th line guys. Most CHL teams are not turning out 6 forwards to the pros. They are good CHL players but lacking something (size, skating, late bloomer) to go pro. Now the garbage teams are full of lower tier CHL guys and non-CHL players.
Here's another take on the argument on which league is best. Team USA which is their under 18 national team plays in the USHL. They finished 15th out of 16 teams this season. They also play top college teams and had a few wins against them. Now the USHL isn't as good as the CHL so considering this, CHL teams should be competitive with the US college teams.
