2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Psytic

But why though? Frolik is better currently at this stage of their careers and Burakovsky has never played a full season due to injuries. Our left wing is as good or better with out him.

It would be done for the long-term outlook of the organization, to add another possible piece to the core.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Nelson

He is 31 years old and he will be 32 years old before next season. His contract is for four more seasons at $5.75M. If the Capitals were to go insane and offer the Flames Burakovsky in exchange for Neal, I think that would be a great move regardless of not seeing him in the playoffs.

So he'll be older next year and making the same money next year so move him now before seeing if he can contribute in a tournament he's played to the end of the past 2 seasons?

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Toonage

So he'll be older next year and making the same money next year so move him now before seeing if he can contribute in a tournament he's played to the end of the past 2 seasons?

That's what I would do in this hypothetical scenario in which the Capitals were interested in Neal for Burakovsky.

[iloveicedhockey]

Has this been posted?

https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/...380780032?s=19

Eesh. It doesn't make sense to me though, unless flames were expecting puljujarvi to drop beyond Edmonton and Vancouver, with them taking one of Keller and tkachuk each.

Edit: never mind, sureLoss started a new thread about it.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Nelson

https://hockeybuzz.com/blog/Todd-Cor...vsky/159/97325



This article makes a compelling argument for acquiring Andre Burakovsky. It says the Capitals would be looking for a "veteran, top-nine piece".



The names that come to mind, which the Flames would be willing to send back and which could possibly qualify:

-Michael Frolik

-James Neal



I think James Neal would be an absolute non-starter because he has had such a putrid season and is signed to such a big contract. But I wonder about Frolik. I think it's at least worth the call. Frolik is a good player.

I think when they say they want a veteran top 9 guy, it’s assumed it’s on an expiring contract.


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[memphusk]

It's too bad Hartnell is retired. He's the type you need for a rental.

[Zoller]

Friedman just speculated that the Leafs might be looking to extend Matthews for less than 8 years, bringing the AAV down.

Somewhere in the 5-6 year range.

Matthews is 4 years from UFA. Signing him to 4 years would be the dumbest move the Leafs could make. He would be UFA right 26 and most likely walk.

So that got me thinking...

Arizona should offer a 4 year 16 mill contract to Matthews. There is no way Toronto could match that. Sure, Matthews goes UFA in 4 years but Arizona could just offer another max contract.

Arizona NEEDS to go after Matthews. I think they lose their team if they don't. They can't afford not to. Plus, they're always struggling to hit the cap floor anyway.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Zoller

Friedman just speculated that the Leafs might be looking at extending Matthews for less than 8 years to bring the price down. Somewhere in the 5-6 year range.

Matthews is 4 years from UFA so he said signing him to 4 years would be the dumbest move the Leafs could make. He would be UFA right 26 and most likely walk.

So that got me thinking...

Arizona should offer a 4 year 16 mill contract to Matthews. There is no way Toronto could match that. Sure, Matthews goes UFA in 4 years but Arizona could just offer another max contract.

Arizona NEEDS to go after Matthews. I think they lose their team if they don't. They can't afford not to. Plus, they're always struggling to hit the cap floor anyway.

They are going to lose their team anyhow and they are broke. This is not happening.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Zoller

Friedman just speculated that the Leafs might be looking at extending Matthews for less than 8 years to bring the price down. Somewhere in the 5-6 year range.

Matthews is 4 years from UFA so he said signing him to 4 years would be the dumbest move the Leafs could make. He would be UFA right 26 and most likely walk.

So that got me thinking...

Arizona should offer a 4 year 16 mill contract to Matthews. There is no way Toronto could match that. Sure, Matthews goes UFA in 4 years but Arizona could just offer another max contract.

Arizona NEEDS to go after Matthews. I think they lose their team if they don't. They can't afford not to. Plus, they're always struggling to hit the cap floor anyway.

totally agree...I am surprised that there aren't more offer sheets quite frankly...

Arizona, imo, would be silly not to offer him... hometown kid... seems like his relationship with Babcock can be strained at times, the incessant media glare of Toronto...

I no longer think NYI offer sheets Matthews due to their recent success... they might not need to do anything...

in the case of Arizona, they don't owe anything to Toronto; They do owe their long suffering fans a product they would support. Matthews gives you that, and he might even want to go back to Arizona, which is something more of a unicorn for Arizona when you consider elite hockey talent.

Toronto is in trouble imo... not sure how they can sign marner/matthews/reilly/kaspenen under the cap

and even if they do move, you still need a franchise player to build a new fanbase.

[Erick Estrada]

I do think that teams like the Coyotes and NYI really have nothing to lose offer sheeting Matthews. Players like Matthews don't come around very often so if it takes a bunch of 1st round picks then so be it as these organizations owe their fans after years of failed 1st round picks and mediocre teams.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

totally agree...I am surprised that there aren't more offer sheets quite frankly...

Arizona, imo, would be silly not to offer him... hometown kid... seems like his relationship with Babcock can be strained at times, the incessant media glare of Toronto...

I no longer think NYI offer sheets Matthews due to their recent success... they might not need to do anything...

in the case of Arizona, they don't owe anything to Toronto; They do owe their long suffering fans a product they would support. Matthews gives you that, and he might even want to go back to Arizona, which is something more of a unicorn for Arizona when you consider elite hockey talent.

Toronto is in trouble imo... not sure how they can sign marner/matthews/reilly/kaspenen under the cap

and even if they do move, you still need a franchise player to build a new fanbase.

I'm not as they rarely work.

In this case though i could see it happening for all the reasons you mention as well as acquiring Matthews would raise the value of the team immediately and actually accelerate a sale of the club whether they stay or move.

A lot easier to sell season tickets, suites, advertising etc when you have an automatic young face of the franchise/superstar type who you know can be around for many years.

A pretty wise investment actually if it all goes well.

[Flamenspiel]

Originally Posted by Zoller

Friedman just speculated that the Leafs might be looking to extend Matthews for less than 8 years, bringing the AAV down.

Somewhere in the 5-6 year range.

Matthews is 4 years from UFA. Signing him to 4 years would be the dumbest move the Leafs could make. He would be UFA right 26 and most likely walk.

So that got me thinking...

Arizona should offer a 4 year 16 mill contract to Matthews. There is no way Toronto could match that. Sure, Matthews goes UFA in 4 years but Arizona could just offer another max contract.

Arizona NEEDS to go after Matthews. I think they lose their team if they don't. They can't afford not to. Plus, they're always struggling to hit the cap floor anyway.

Except two things: Why would Mathews want to go to Arizona? Does any player really want to go there and lose for years? Secondly, can a low budget team like that even afford him?

[keratosis]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

Except two things: Why would Mathews want to go to Arizona? Does any player really want to go there and lose for years? Secondly, can a low budget team like that even afford him?

That and Friedman throws darts at the board hoping one will stick.

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[icecube]

The Leafs would match any offer sheet on Matthews and figure out cap problems by trading other players. Seem pointless to offer him one and have the Leafs ticked off at you forever.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by keratosis

That and Friedman throws darts at the board hoping one will stick.

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Except I don't think Friedman said anything about Arizona.
He only talked about the fact that leafs may consider less term to bring the AAV down. A poster than speculated that Arizona should offer sheet him.
I imagine it is stuff like this that Friedman gets frustrated with - when someone takes a point he makes, hypothesizes something different - but then it gets attributed back to Friedman.

I think he's one of the most connected insiders in the game. Not a dart guy.

[Ped]

Might not be this summer, but I think it was the Athletic who showed that most GMs only get one kick at the can, so I think we'll start to see offer sheets actually used.


They used to be signed not regularly, but certainly more common than now. All the hyperbole aside from GMs who don't like it, but if you're only going to get one shot, and trades are much rarer, who cares if you piss off another GM?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by icecube

The Leafs would match any offer sheet on Matthews and figure out cap problems by trading other players. Seem pointless to offer him one and have the Leafs ticked off at you forever.

If the Coyotes did that offer sheet I think the Leafs would take the four 1sts.
If the Leafs match that offer they can pretty much kiss Marner goodbye because they could not afford him. Does Matthews make Arizona a SC contender? I don't think he moves the needle that much. So you get 4 1sts that are either mid 1sts or lottery picks, you can easily sign Marner, and you still have JT and Kadri up the middle. Matthews is a great player, no doubt, but with the pieces they would still have adding 4 1st rnd picks would make that teams success carry a lot longer most likely.

[Scroopy Noopers]

4 potential lottery picks is an insane offer.

[icecube]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

If the Coyotes did that offer sheet I think the Leafs would take the four 1sts.
If the Leafs match that offer they can pretty much kiss Marner goodbye because they could not afford him. Does Matthews make Arizona a SC contender? I don't think he moves the needle that much. So you get 4 1sts that are either mid 1sts or lottery picks, you can easily sign Marner, and you still have JT and Kadri up the middle. Matthews is a great player, no doubt, but with the pieces they would still have adding 4 1st rnd picks would make that teams success carry a lot longer most likely.

Interesting thought. But I still think the Leafs would keep him though and try to move JT, Nylander, etc.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Flamenspiel

Except two things: Why would Mathews want to go to Arizona? Does any player really want to go there and lose for years? Secondly, can a low budget team like that even afford him?

He grew up in Scottsdale.