American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

When was the last time the U.S. even declared a war.... Korea?

That was a 'Police Action!'

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

You think if the US invaded Canada NATO would all declare war on the US and come to our aid?

100% guarantee they would Neville Chamberlain that.

Well, looks like y’all will be the 51st state then.

I never said they would declare war, but they also couldn’t sit by and do nothing. And if they did do nothing then I guess that proves Trump right and NATO is a useless entity. But comparing a US invasion of Canada to Germany taking small plots of land from Czechoslovakia (which were mainly German areas) is a stretch.

I wish my home country nothing but the best, but it’s sad seeing how many people just want to roll over when the first tank hits the border. I guess the difference is at least ISIS cared about their cause.

[activeStick]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1899421468477305032

[SutterBrother]

At least the people who voted for the Leopards Eating Faces party are having their faces eaten.

President of the American Soybean Association, and 3x Dotard voter, claims Trump crippled his industry during his first term, can't fathom why Trump is doing the exact same thing in his second term

Good news Caleb! This will likely be permanent. Better send those kids to school, cause there probably won't be a 10th generation of Soy farmers on your land.

Kristen Owen, an analyst at Oppenheimer, predicts that the duties will likely solidify Brazil becoming the primary global producer for both corn and soy, whereas the U.S. will become a sort of incremental supplier to the world.

“Brazil specifically has more capacity to grow their acreage, more capacity to grow to increase their share of the global grain trade,” she said to CNBC. “Tariffs and some of the other decisions that the administration is making just accelerate some of that.”

Good job voting champ!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

At least the people who voted for the Leopards Eating Faces party are having their faces eaten.

President of the American Soybean Association, and 3x Dotard voter, claims Trump crippled his industry during his first term, can't fathom why Trump is doing the exact same thing in his second term

Good news Caleb! This will likely be permanent. Better send those kids to school, cause there probably won't be a 10th generation of Soy farmers on your land.


Good job voting champ!

That's gonna be just great for the rain forest, too.

[Fuzz]

So, I know people are holding out hopes for the mid-terms, but what are the odds Democrats make any gains? With the voting restrictions that overwhelmingly affect Democrats, gerrymandering, and who knows what the #### else happens over the next 18 months, even with out "stealing" the election, is there any hope gains can actually happen?

I suspect Republicans left without faces will still be easily manipulated into voting against their own best interests, even when they know exactly what they will lose. Because they just did it a few months ago.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by HOOT

Well, looks like y’all will be the 51st state then.

I never said they would declare war, but they also couldn’t sit by and do nothing. And if they did do nothing then I guess that proves Trump right and NATO is a useless entity. But comparing a US invasion of Canada to Germany taking small plots of land from Czechoslovakia (which were mainly German areas) is a stretch.

I wish my home country nothing but the best, but it’s sad seeing how many people just want to roll over when the first tank hits the border. I guess the difference is at least ISIS cared about their cause.

I know what you’re saying about these other conflicts, but Canadians aren’t like a lot of other countries. We don’t have mandatory military training, and we’ve never fought wars here. That’s not suggesting that no one has fought in wars elsewhere, because obviously we’ve sent our troops overseas. But the reality is that “we” aren’t really ready for this. I feel like a lot of the people saying they’d fight to the death are people who have never been in war, and the people who come from war torn countries are less enthused.

And that’s not a comment that means to suggest that I think people aren’t as tough as they think. I include myself in that statement, entirely. I’m purely a pacifist, but I also recognize that I’m not cutout to be heading off into battle or things like that. I feel like that’s most of our population and having met plenty of people from this board, I’d hazard a guess that’s most of us here.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

https://twitter.com/user/status/1899604087961763905

Anyone who has watched the Sopranos

Kinda funny, but doesn't really work since Trump is really Vito in this scenario.

[direwolf]

Perhaps Americans are finally starting to wake up to what's happening. The only way they're going to get their country back is if they fight for it. They need to get angry and they need to get active.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/sourin...iffs-1.7480966

Evidence of Americans' souring mood is everywhere you look. Even in the place you look for evidence: Google.

An unprecedented number of Americans are now googling the word "tariff," an issue of minimal interest to them during last year's presidential election.

There's an even scarier word they're now Googling: "recession," a search trend line that often, but not always, coincides with an economic contraction.

Signs are mounting of U.S. unease with President Donald Trump's North American trade war and it's surfacing in various places: from economic data, to grumbling businesses, to media coverage, and in tense exchanges at the White House.

On Tuesday, the daily White House briefing was dominated by questions about a trade war that has helped eliminate all stock-market gains since the Nov. 5 election.

The chief economist at Moody's is among those who see a surging likelihood of a U.S. recession — Mark Zandi puts it at 35 per cent, and some put it even higher.

It all depends, Zandi told CBC News, on whether Trump's tariff policies remain in place; whether they spread to other countries; and what the retaliation looks like.
"It's all negative. It's just a question of how negative," Zandi said of the current trade uncertainty.

[Fuzz]

Trump slaps tariffs on Australia, and then just ghosts them. 5D chess.

“We have mobilised everything at our disposal, including through our embassy in the United States, but also through all channels and we will continue to do so,” Mr Albanese said today.

Asked if he had tried to organise a second call with Mr Trump on tariffs, Mr Albanese revealed he had asked to do so.

“Look, we will continue to engage in all vehicles we have continued to put in a request for another discussion with President Trump,” he said.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work...eed528c669ec7f


Have you tried Truth Social? X? Messages scribbled on a Fillet-O-Fish wrapper? "Please call soon, relationship aging like fish".

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Slava

I know what you’re saying about these other conflicts, but Canadians aren’t like a lot of other countries. We don’t have mandatory military training, and we’ve never fought wars here. That’s not suggesting that no one has fought in wars elsewhere, because obviously we’ve sent our troops overseas. But the reality is that “we” aren’t really ready for this. I feel like a lot of the people saying they’d fight to the death are people who have never been in war, and the people who come from war torn countries are less enthused.

Only a small fraction of young men in Canada have ever fired a weapon in anger or been subjected to any sort of collective physical rigour. Bold comments made on a keyboard between slurps of ramen delivered by Skip the Dishes are well and good for our collective sense of defiance. But there’s a world of difference between that and the brutal, harrowing business of insurgency warfare.

Countries that fight sustained resistance against occupation have more than just a defiant attitude. They have lots of weapons, lots of people who know how to use them, and a tradition of conscription or collective training.

Anyone serious about fighting off an American invasion (which remains a remote possibility) should be campaigning for universal military service of the sort standard in Europe during the Cold War: 12-24 months of mandatory enrolment served between the age of 18 and 22, and periodic month-long refresher enrolment by older men.

That’s what a country serious about fighting off foreign invasion would do. For all the defiance Canadians are feeling today, count me as skeptical that mandatory military service would be welcomed by the electorate.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Slava

I know what you’re saying about these other conflicts, but Canadians aren’t like a lot of other countries. We don’t have mandatory military training, and we’ve never fought wars here. That’s not suggesting that no one has fought in wars elsewhere, because obviously we’ve sent our troops overseas. But the reality is that “we” aren’t really ready for this. I feel like a lot of the people saying they’d fight to the death are people who have never been in war, and the people who come from war torn countries are less enthused.

And that’s not a comment that means to suggest that I think people aren’t as tough as they think. I include myself in that statement, entirely. I’m purely a pacifist, but I also recognize that I’m not cutout to be heading off into battle or things like that. I feel like that’s most of our population and having met plenty of people from this board, I’d hazard a guess that’s most of us here.

I think the country, if invaded by the US (which I do not think will happen), would fold quickly and easily.

You nailed it with "I feel like a lot of the people saying they’d fight to the death are people who have never been in war" people have no fcuking clue what it is like.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Only a small fraction of young men in Canada have ever fired a weapon in anger or been subjected to any sort of collective physical rigour. Bold comments made on a keyboard between slurps of ramen delivered by Skip the Dishes are well and good for our collective sense of defiance. But there’s a world of difference between that and the brutal, harrowing business of insurgency warfare.

Countries that fight sustained resistance against occupation have more than just a defiant attitude. They have lots of weapons, lots of people who know how to use them, and a tradition of conscription or collective training.

Anyone serious about fighting off an American invasion (which remains a remote possibility) should be campaigning for universal military service of the sort standard in Europe during the Cold War: 12-24 months of mandatory enrolment served between the age of 18 and 22, and periodic month-long refresher enrolment by older men.

That’s what a country serious about fighting off foreign invasion would do. For all the defiance Canadians are feeling today, count me as skeptical that mandatory military service would be welcomed by the electorate.

You aren't wrong. But insurgency warfare isn't "fighting off foreign invasion".

Insurgency is decentralized independent cells of like-thinkers who harass and torment the occupying force using various means in hopes of demoralizing them. Because the cells are decentralized, and not all the cells will believe in the same goals, the insurgency becomes unpredictable.

Some insurgents will be violent. Some will merely be disobedient to the occupying force. And lots of in-between.

[Kybosh]

Oh whatever. All through history, young men and women had never used weapons in anger until suddenly they did. People adapt and change due to the environment around them.

[missdpuck]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

At least the people who voted for the Leopards Eating Faces party are having their faces eaten.

President of the American Soybean Association, and 3x Dotard voter, claims Trump crippled his industry during his first term, can't fathom why Trump is doing the exact same thing in his second term

Good news Caleb! This will likely be permanent. Better send those kids to school, cause there probably won't be a 10th generation of Soy farmers on your land.



Good job voting champ!

Yeah thanks buddy. Now they’re taking away our tofu.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

That’s what a country serious about fighting off foreign invasion would do. For all the defiance Canadians are feeling today, count me as skeptical that mandatory military service would be welcomed by the electorate.

This is something that's been worrying me since the start of this "51st State" bulls***.

I have prior military service, and come from a family with a long history of military service. I am old enough that it's "unlikely" I'd be drafted, but if it push really came down to shove...it's something I can see happening.

I had to wrestle with the questions of "Can or would I kill for my country?" and "Am I ok with being killed and/or dying for my country?" once already in my lifetime, and I am not at all thrilled about having to consider them again.

It's all fine to talk a tough game from a keyboard, but when the rubber hits the road, et al...

[Fuzz]

I'm totally ####ed if the fascists come, so I may as well die shooting the mother####ers.

[Senator Clay Davis]

It's also easy to say we'll get crushed when we aren't staring down occupation and/or death and it's only a hypothetical. Desperate people tend to go to lengths their non-desperate opposition won't. Also worth remembering an invasion scenario leaves the US open to it's own civil war as Trump will still be extremely hated and a heavily armed US populace will have an opening to inflict heavy damage. Never mind China, Russia and everyone else who'd love to arm us and/or an American insurgency to help destroy the US. Like Iraq and Afghanistan we can make it so ugly for the US they eventually just leave.

End of the day, let's just hope the ####er dies already. Can't imagine the global celebrations on the day his death is announced.

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

When was the last time the U.S. even declared a war.... Korea?

Korea was a UN action. Last declaration of war by the US was on Japan in WW2.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

Korea was a UN action. Last declaration of war by the US was on Japan in WW2.

Not true, they've declared wars on drugs, terrorism, paper straws, and all sorts of things.