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Old 09-21-2022, 08:29 PM   #7681
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Some reports Russian men 18-65 being barred from flights out of the country...

https://www.airlive.net/breaking-rus...aged-18-to-65/
Are all the NHLers out?
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:00 PM   #7682
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The husband of my wife's best friend has been conscripted.

Apparently, back in the Soviet Union days when he was in university, you could opt to take a course through some sort of "military department" in lieu of actually performing military service. Needless to say most people chose the course. Unfortunately, this has come back to haunt all of these people as now they are considered as having had some military training and are being conscripted in the first wave.
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:19 PM   #7683
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That sucks. And for absolutely nothing. One small man's ego.

What a disaster the whole situation is.
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:28 PM   #7684
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Are all the NHLers out?
Waiting for more reports to emerge.
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:33 PM   #7685
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By some of the logic, any NHLer who has played for HC CSKA Moscow is part of the military and can be conscripted? That's the Red Army team. Ovechkin is fortunate he played for the KGB team (Dynamo).
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:43 PM   #7686
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I would think most NHLers are already in North America since fitness testing and camps are about to start. There could be a few stragglers there though.
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:50 PM   #7687
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Women and children can. In fact, there are numerous reports that men could get away today as well.
Are you likely to be conscripted?
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Old 09-21-2022, 09:55 PM   #7688
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The husband of my wife's best friend has been conscripted.

Apparently, back in the Soviet Union days when he was in university, you could opt to take a course through some sort of "military department" in lieu of actually performing military service. Needless to say most people chose the course. Unfortunately, this has come back to haunt all of these people as now they are considered as having had some military training and are being conscripted in the first wave.
So he's sending "soldiers" into battle who...took a University course once? That sounds like a disaster.
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Old 09-21-2022, 10:02 PM   #7689
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Lack of training might be least of their worries.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1572679105480642560
https://twitter.com/user/status/1572681274111963136
https://twitter.com/user/status/1572681276846645253
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Old 09-21-2022, 10:18 PM   #7690
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I hope German Titov and Sergei Makarov are ok.
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Old 09-21-2022, 10:34 PM   #7691
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I had the most amazing experience today and this seems like the place to share it.

Some of you know that when I was a teenager both my (now) wife and myself took a summer volunteer trip to Ukraine. We were mostly working with kids in a rural area, and it absolutely rips me apart that the 3-5 year olds I spent the summer reading to and playing games with are now almost certainly all engaged in a brutal war for survival. I'm often on CP late at night now because I can't sleep thinking about it.

A bunch of us were billeted with an amazing family in this little village. They took care of us, fed us, and were just wonderful hosts. Today, my wife got a whats app message (kind of a friend-of-a-friend thing) that someone was looking for winter clothing for some Ukrainian refugees who have kids a bit younger than ours, and did we have any extras/hand-me-downs that would suit. As the conversation progressed, she found out some information about the family.

It turns out that the family who billeted us in Ukraine ~20 years ago has fled the country. The parents, their two children, the children's spouses, and the grandchildren are all living temporarily with a family IN CALGARY. I have no idea what the odds of this are, it seems astronomical to me. Obviously we'll be doing the winter clothes and more, and we haven't made it down to see them yet as we just found out today. I'm sort of in shock and am a bit unsure of exactly what to do next, but had to share it somewhere and this thread seemed like a reasonable place.
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Unreal odds for sure! Maybe we can help donate as well. Any chance we can pitch in too?
I heard through the grapevine that mods are no longer allowing gofundme on CP after the PIMKing and flamesgimp debacles. But I would really hope we could make an exception and create one for this family. This is something real and something that I'm sure many would love to contribute to.

There's no suggestion or ask from Bizaro86, just a really unique, lightening strike type situation, and it would be great to get the CP community together to help this family out.
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Old 09-21-2022, 10:38 PM   #7692
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I hope German Titov and Sergei Makarov are ok.
Doesn't Titov live in Calgary?
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Old 09-21-2022, 10:48 PM   #7693
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The Ukrainian revolution started with a seemingly innocent protest, yet this protest numbered in the hundreds of thousands and culminated in a bloody revolution to topple the government.



From all the video I have seen in the past 24 hours, there is nothing in Russia resembling any type of cohesion or notable anti-war rallies. Barely a thousand here and there in the most populous cities (and that is being generous).



Russians liked to make fun of Ukrainians (before the invasion and more so before 2014), in a sort of big sibling/little sibling kind of way.

With that said, it’s actually Russian people who should be envious of Ukrainians, and the pride, determination and courage that Ukrainians showed to improve their own living conditions.

The Ukrainian revolution started out as a protest, and led to over 90 days of protesting, fighting back, digging in, and sacrificing in Maidan. Over 90 days! With people dying.

There’s legit hundreds of thousands or perhaps millions of people in Russia, who know the writing that’s on the wall. And while I don’t blame anyone for not wanting to protest in Russia, it’s still disappointing to see that people can’t come together to force change. Shows what most people think, when they’re just trying to get out of Russia, while Maidan proved the will of the Ukrainian people to better their homeland.


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Doesn't Titov live in Calgary?
He did a few years back when he kicked my ass in beer league
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Are you likely to be conscripted?
Likely, but not right now. At some later point, probably winter/spring.
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A girl about seven years old is crying in the Moscow bus right now. Her mother looks deep in thoughts. Likely her husband was conscripted yesterday.
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Again.................for nothing.

Putin is evil.
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Russians liked to make fun of Ukrainians (before the invasion and more so before 2014), in a sort of big sibling/little sibling kind of way.

With that said, it’s actually Russian people who should be envious of Ukrainians, and the pride, determination and courage that Ukrainians showed to improve their own living conditions.

The Ukrainian revolution started out as a protest, and led to over 90 days of protesting, fighting back, digging in, and sacrificing in Maidan. Over 90 days! With people dying.

There’s legit hundreds of thousands or perhaps millions of people in Russia, who know the writing that’s on the wall. And while I don’t blame anyone for not wanting to protest in Russia, it’s still disappointing to see that people can’t come together to force change. Shows what most people think, when they’re just trying to get out of Russia, while Maidan proved the will of the Ukrainian people to better their homeland.


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Russians, myself included, really don't have a will to fight for a better homeland. We have it programmed in us that we should go somewhere else and find a better life there. One of the reasons could be that Russia is so vast If people were unhappy they could always just move elsewhere and settle in empty lands. Whatever the reason, though, we clearly don't have the spirit of Ukranians.
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As of right now, public backlash is actually less than it was at the start of the war on February.
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As of right now, public backlash is actually less than it was at the start of the war on February.
Russians would rather risk their lives in Ukraine for the benefit of a genocidal dictator than in Russia fighting for their freedom.

This is why it's ridiculous to say that average Russians aren't responsible for the war. They absolutely are.

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