12-11-2022, 08:36 AM
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#7661
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigrangy
Gurianov is always in the doghouse in Dallas, could see those swap.
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Puljujarvi is worth far less than Gurianov or Kravstov. If I were another GM I would look at the fact JP spent significant time with McDavid and in some cases both McDavid and Draisaitl and could literally do nothing. A baboon would literally get over 30 pts playing in that role (see Zack Kassian 2019-20).
JP is likely a 4th liner if he is able to hone his defensive game, which needs a lot of work even though there was a time recently where Oilers fans and media were saying he was elite defensively.
I think he will be a cap dump add on to another trade which when the trade is broken down will show JP has negative value at his $3MM cap hit. A team like the Coyotes will capitalize on that if a Chychrun trade happens.
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12-11-2022, 10:25 AM
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#7662
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
HNIC:
Puljujarvi and Oilers agreed at start of season if it didn't work out the Oilers would trade him.
Friedman that he believes that a Puljuarvi trade will happen, but he cannot give a timeline on when it will happen
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The guy has been available for years and the reason he hasn't been traded is because teams don't think he's worth all that much and the Oilers do. Until the Oilers get realistic about his value he's going to rot on their roster. They should just take the 4th round pick and move on.
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12-11-2022, 10:39 AM
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#7663
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
The guy has been available for years and the reason he hasn't been traded is because teams don't think he's worth all that much and the Oilers do. Until the Oilers get realistic about his value he's going to rot on their roster. They should just take the 4th round pick and move on.
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LOL exactly. Mystery solved. Maybe Friedge should pay you to help him write his ‘insights.’
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12-11-2022, 10:47 AM
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#7664
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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They are holding out for someone to pay something similar to what the Flames got for Bennett
Not going to happen but that’s what they are hoping
His value is going down every second
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12-11-2022, 10:54 AM
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#7665
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Franchise Player
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Even as a junior player, the question was if he had the skills and hockey sense to product offensively in the NHL.
The answer appears to be no. He doesn't have great finish and can't generate offense on his own. He looks like a reasonable bottom 6 forward but that's it.
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12-11-2022, 10:56 AM
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#7666
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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All I'm saying is, let's see how he does outside of the garbage chute that is Edmonton.
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12-11-2022, 11:02 AM
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#7667
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Franchise Player
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Oh I agree, I think there is a better player than what we are seeing in Edmonton, but I also don't think there is a player that will produce offensively in the NHL.
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12-11-2022, 12:22 PM
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#7669
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Franchise Player
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1.45 cap hit
Someone like Arizona should take a look at claiming him
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12-11-2022, 12:25 PM
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#7670
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
Is his neck okay?
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Gary Roberts is in great shape, he was training with Gary Roberts this summer
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12-11-2022, 01:09 PM
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#7671
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Powerplay Quarterback
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If the Flames weren't right up against the cap, Tolvanen would be worth a waiver claim. The team could use someone with his shot right now
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12-11-2022, 01:14 PM
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#7672
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Make the room and claim.
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12-11-2022, 01:23 PM
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#7673
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ontario
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Why is a team like Nashville that already struggles offensively (moreso than the flames) waiving Tolvanen? I’m not so convinced he should be claimed
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12-11-2022, 01:27 PM
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#7674
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Franchise Player
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Yeah let's not claim others team garbage until we can give our own players a chance.
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12-11-2022, 01:29 PM
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#7675
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Tolvanen has the most oddly balanced point spread during his career.
2018-19: 1 goal and 1 assist.
2020-21: 11 goals and 11 assists.
2021-22: 11 goals and 12 assists.
2022-23: 2 goals and 2 assists.
That one extra assist last year means he probably missed an empty net at one point.
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12-11-2022, 01:32 PM
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#7676
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Just like Ruzika, I’d rather see more Phillips, Zahorny, Pelletier and Zary before any waiver claims.
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12-11-2022, 01:55 PM
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#7677
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First Line Centre
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I’d still take Tolvanen. He’s 23 still and his cap hit isn’t terrible
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12-11-2022, 02:59 PM
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#7678
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMike
Just like Ruzika, I’d rather see more Phillips, Zahorny, Pelletier and Zary before any waiver claims.
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There is this old Chinese saying, "your neighbour's dinner always smell more delicious."
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12-11-2022, 07:02 PM
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#7679
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Franchise Player
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I doubt Tolvanen makes it to us but he'd be worth the gamble IMO.
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12-11-2022, 07:07 PM
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#7680
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacks
I doubt Tolvanen makes it to us but he'd be worth the gamble IMO.
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Who do you waive if you get him? Can't have 24 players on the roster.
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