2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[Tbull8]

I guess if Utah wouldn’t part with Tij for Rasmus, then we don’t trade him there. Connie will set his price and if you meet it you get Ras

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

I guess if Utah wouldn’t part with Tij for Rasmus, then we don’t trade him there. Connie will set his price and if you meet it you get Ras

Those prices have to be based in reality though.
The Coyotes have a rich asset pool - locking in on a single player doesn't make sense.

[FlamesAddiction]

I would be kind of funny though.

It's pretty rare to see a prospect drafted in the 1st round traded within the same calendar year from when they were drafted, but a notable time it happened is when the Flames acquired Jarome just 3 months after Dallas drafted him. At that time of course, he was a fine prospect, but the name wasn't famous yet.

[SuperMatt18]

Cozens to me feels like one of those guys that can be a good number 2 center but isn't ever going to be a play driving number 1 center

So as long as you're not paying the price of getting him as a play driving number 1 center then it's fine.

But I don't think Buffalo would be ready to sell low yet.

[Tkachukwagon]

Ras is a superstar now, those don’t come cheap

https://twitter.com/user/status/1849117994875797931

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Cozens to me feels like one of those guys that can be a good number 2 center but isn't ever going to be a play driving number 1 center

So as long as you're not paying the price of getting him as a play driving number 1 center then it's fine.

But I don't think Buffalo would be ready to sell low yet.

The Flames are likely never going to get an "elite" star player through a trade unless some young player surprises. That said, it shouldn't stop us from trading for a top 6 centre under 23.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

Ras is a superstar now, those don’t come cheap

Some of the comments in that thread are funny. Like the one; "I think this just proves a flawed model lol he’s a top 4 dman at best".

A top 4 "at best", suggesting that he could even be a bottom 6 defenseman. Must be an Oilers fan as I am sure they have as many Anderssons in their system as they do Giordanos.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

I guess if Utah wouldn’t part with Tij for Rasmus, then we don’t trade him there. Connie will set his price and if you meet it you get Ras

So he won't trade him then I guess. Because only Utah can trade Iggy Jr.

I reality, Conroy is too good to say Iggy or bust. Because that will likely end up with a bust, and there are other deals with Utah that would be exceptional.

And the Jarome deal was at a time when there was no salary cap.

So, Neiwy had exceptional value because Dallas knew they could sign him without worrying about the cap implications. Andersson needs a large contract in 1.5 years at an age which is not attractive for for any team trading for him.

[Ba'alzamon]

Kind of gratifying considering I've been saying Andersson should have gone in the first round since that draft. I couldn't believe it when Jacob Larsson and Gabriel Carlsson both went before Andersson and Kylington.

Speaking of Kylington, I said the same thing about him, so... 50% right, I guess. He still should have gone before Larsson, though.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

Kind of gratifying considering I've been saying Andersson should have gone in the first round since that draft. I couldn't believe it when Jacob Larsson and Gabriel Carlsson both went before Andersson and Kylington.

Speaking of Kylington, I said the same thing about him, so... 50% right, I guess. He still should have gone before Larsson, though.

If it wasn't for his issues, Kylington should be a 1st round pick.

[JTech780]

The Rangers are going to be a team to watch going forward, they have a lot of guys needing new deals, Shesterkin, Lafreniere, Miller, Kakko, Cuylle, Rempe, Lindgren. They aren’t going to have the cap to bring back all of those players, they will have to move out salary at some point.

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by JTech780

The Rangers are going to be a team to watch going forward, they have a lot of guys needing new deals, Shesterkin, Lafreniere, Miller, Kakko, Cuylle, Rempe, Lindgren. They aren’t going to have the cap to bring back all of those players, they will have to move out salary at some point.

To NYR
Andersson
3rd

To CGY
Miller
Kakko

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon

Kind of gratifying considering I've been saying Andersson should have gone in the first round since that draft. I couldn't believe it when Jacob Larsson and Gabriel Carlsson both went before Andersson and Kylington.

Speaking of Kylington, I said the same thing about him, so... 50% right, I guess. He still should have gone before Larsson, though.

Originally Posted by The Cobra

If it wasn't for his issues, Kylington should be a 1st round pick.

The year leading up to the draft, many people had Kylington ranked to go in the top 5. He slid hard that year and seemed to fall out of favour with his team.

I don't know what happened, but Loob recommended that they get him to North America right away to take control of his development.

[dustygoon]

The 1st rounder this year:

If it's 11th or lower, Montreal gets it over the florida one.

If we trade our 1st this year for a young center, does anyone know how that works? The wording in the trade could read "montreal gets our pick if it's 11th or lower UNLESS IT'S TRADED". I doubt that's the wording but just curious.

Still, we could pass this risk onto the team we trade with. Acquiring team might get a top 10 pick or a bottom pick.

[Jiri Hrdina]

The Flames wouldn't be able to trade the pick.
The pick they can trade is the NJ one.

[Jay Random]

That's what got us into this mess. The Florida pick was traded to Calgary conditionally, and we don't know if the conditions will be met. So when Calgary traded the Florida pick, the trade included a condition that could substitute Calgary's 1st instead. If Conroy wants to trade his own 1st, he'll have to get the other party to agree to a condition that substitutes another pick in case the pick is not available – which could be an unprotected 1st next year. I say no dice.

The conditions on first-round picks this year remind me of that stock movie visual, the conspiracy theorist's wall map with all the photos connected by pieces of string. There's a whole ball of yarn up on that wall now. Better to trade picks that are not part of the mess.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The Flames wouldn't be able to trade the pick.
The pick they can trade is the NJ one.

I mean they still could trade it with conditions

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

LeBrun on insider trading:

https://www.tsn.ca/video/early-tradi...market~3017052

Utah's plan for 2 of their top 4 D men out for months is internal for now but will probably turn to trade if losses mount up
one d-man Armstrong has checked on is Provorov - Blue Jackets not ready to move him yet
Utah prefers finding a rental like Provorov because the injured players are expected to come back at some point this season

Montreal is doing due diligence looking to shake up team
Difficult to do trades this early in the season
Habs won't mortgage the future
Habs are at cap so must be equal $ in and $ out

I would be very interested in dealing with Montreal if the flames can get their 1st back.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I would be very interested in dealing with Montreal if the flames can get their 1st back.

It’s too bad the flames are loaded with wingers and Montreal’s two bad contracts are wingers (Anderson and Gallagher). Montreal could trade one of those two to Calgary and attach the first round pick Calgary sent them. Would work out for both sides in some ways except that the flames have so many good young wingers that it’s probably not a good idea to bring in veteran wingers on bad contracts taking roster spots from guys like Honzek, Coronato, Pelletier or Klapka. What would be interesting is if the flames took on the full salary of Anderson (while getting their first round pick back) and then trade him to someone else at 50% retained. Would probably only get a 3rd round pick for him but that’s something and I think there would be a few teams interested in him at half of his current cap hit.

About ends up like this:

To Montreal:
Future considerations

To Calgary:
Calgary/Florida’s 1st round pick
3rd round pick from third team
$2.75 million in cap used up

Third team:
Josh Anderson (50% retained)

Calgary ends up getting a 1st round pick + 3rd pick for $2.75 million in unused cap space this season and next season. Montreal gets cap space to make another trade without it having to be money in=money out. Also sends a message to their line up trying to spark the team. Third team gets a middle-six power forward with a middle six cap hit who could rebound into being an impact player on another team.

[Sandman]

I of course ran out of thanks many posts back, but I just want to thank everyone for sticking up for me, giving “thanks” to those posts, and for all the amazing comments!!!

Can’t say enough how much I appreciate you guys!