07-26-2024, 02:18 PM
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#741
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Bonded
I think a large difference is that people walk a lot more in Europe as well.
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That sounds like "15 minute city" talk, you damned commie!!!
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07-26-2024, 02:20 PM
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#742
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Except Canada's consumer landscape and food options are pretty similar to the US's, yet we have a significantly longer life expectancy.
The US's low life expectancy is rooted more in the average person having a lower quality of life than they do in most other developed nations. Education, health care access, exposure to violent crime, hours worked, etc. are all generally poorer in the US than in peer nations.
The average person nominally making more money than the average person in comparable countries is more or less meaningless when it doesn't result in an improved quality of life, and that's why you see a lot of discontent in the US despite generally positive economic metrics. Obviously higher earners in the US have a fantastic quality of life. But the social stratification means that the average person doesn't really.
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07-26-2024, 02:22 PM
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#743
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Originally Posted by getbak
That sounds like "15 minute city" talk, you damned commie!!!
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Having a sensible chuckle at all the poor Marxists who haven’t figured out how to get obese despite being poor. How positively unAmerican.
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07-26-2024, 03:33 PM
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#744
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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Originally Posted by opendoor
Except Canada's consumer landscape and food options are pretty similar to the US's, yet we have a significantly longer life expectancy.
The US's low life expectancy is rooted more in the average person having a lower quality of life than they do in most other developed nations. Education, health care access, exposure to violent crime, hours worked, etc. are all generally poorer in the US than in peer nations.
The average person nominally making more money than the average person in comparable countries is more or less meaningless when it doesn't result in an improved quality of life, and that's why you see a lot of discontent in the US despite generally positive economic metrics. Obviously higher earners in the US have a fantastic quality of life. But the social stratification means that the average person doesn't really.
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It's our ketchup
https://www.distractify.com/p/canadian-vs-us-ketchup
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07-26-2024, 04:52 PM
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#745
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Originally Posted by opendoor
So to use Canada as a comparison, real wages have risen 3.1% since Q3 2019 in Canada, which is higher than the US's 1.7% over the same period. And think of all the economic angst people have in Canada, yet our real wage growth has been nearly double the US's. So is it a surprise that people feel similarly down there when we have faster wage growth and lower inflation here?
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We tax our rich much better than the US taxes theirs. Almost like taxing the rich is good policy or something.
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07-26-2024, 10:42 PM
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#746
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Never suggested it wasn't flawed reasoning. Just said the guy who now works two jobs, that's what he remembers. He's not a deplorable. He's probably a good guy. He should care about other things, and he does to a degree. Mostly he is just worried about his family. Couple that with the fact that this is the first time in about 60 years there hasn't been a Clinton, Bush or Biden on the presidential ticket, and it just reinforces that it is always the same people doing the same things. So that, unfortunately, adds to Trump's appeal.
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I get the point you're trying to make, but Trump is running for the third consecutive time. First individual to do that since FDR (Nixon ran 3 times in 4 elections)
Not that the cult members would ever see this, but Trump is simply a new form of political establishment/dynasty.
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07-27-2024, 06:51 AM
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#747
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
I get the point you're trying to make, but Trump is running for the third consecutive time. First individual to do that since FDR (Nixon ran 3 times in 4 elections)
Not that the cult members would ever see this, but Trump is simply a new form of political establishment/dynasty.
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Just sit back and wait for the Ivanka ticket in 2028.
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07-27-2024, 12:21 PM
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#749
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Originally Posted by devo22
VP race is apparently down to Kelly, Shapiro and Walz.
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All good choices but I like the 19 electoral votes in PA the most
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07-27-2024, 12:42 PM
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#750
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Wait, PA lost an EV?
Anyway I think that's the correct short list and any of those picks would be fine by me.
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07-27-2024, 02:24 PM
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#751
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Wait, PA lost an EV?
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So did CA, IL, NY, OH, WV and MI, gaining 1 were FL, NC, OR, CO and MT.
Freaking TX gained 2
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07-27-2024, 06:49 PM
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#752
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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I'm not saying JD Vance is a wierdo but he thought the M in MILF stands for 'mid Century Modern'
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07-27-2024, 07:20 PM
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#753
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Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
So did CA, IL, NY, OH, WV and MI, gaining 1 were FL, NC, OR, CO and MT.
Freaking TX gained 2 
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The EC is so freaking stupid. It's necessary to some degree for recounts and what not, but it shouldn't be god damn winner take all.
You won 51% to 49%? Cool. Here's your 10 EVs. The other guy gets 9.
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07-27-2024, 08:59 PM
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#754
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
The EC is so freaking stupid. It's necessary to some degree for recounts and what not, but it shouldn't be god damn winner take all.
You won 51% to 49%? Cool. Here's your 10 EVs. The other guy gets 9.
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No election process is perfect, but can you imagine the craziness if leaders were picked the way I would want.
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07-27-2024, 09:15 PM
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#755
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Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powderjunkie
The EC is so freaking stupid. It's necessary to some degree for recounts and what not, but it shouldn't be god damn winner take all.
You won 51% to 49%? Cool. Here's your 10 EVs. The other guy gets 9.
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Gary Bettman and the NHL endorse this idea.
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07-28-2024, 02:21 PM
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#756
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by powderjunkie
The EC is so freaking stupid. It's necessary to some degree for recounts and what not, but it shouldn't be god damn winner take all.
You won 51% to 49%? Cool. Here's your 10 EVs. The other guy gets 9.
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EC is pretty much the same as FPP, which is probably also not ideal.
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07-28-2024, 02:41 PM
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#757
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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how about - now I know this is radical, but hear me out - how about you scratch that EC bull#### and just, I don't know, throw the vote of every single voter in the US in one ####ing basket so that every vote actually counts the same?
Will obviously never happen, but I'll just never get my head around this.
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07-28-2024, 03:21 PM
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#758
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Originally Posted by devo22
how about - now I know this is radical, but hear me out - how about you scratch that EC bull#### and just, I don't know, throw the vote of every single voter in the US in one ####ing basket so that every vote actually counts the same?
Will obviously never happen, but I'll just never get my head around this.
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But if you did that how would you keep podunk southern states like Arkansas in charge? that is the point of the EC, the US's whole political history is a struggle between south and north, still is, the North has the money, the population, the industry, the south has the Government and the trailer parks, that's the balance
While we're on the subject the US isnt a democracy and never has been, it's a republic, two wholly different things
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07-28-2024, 04:05 PM
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#759
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by devo22
how about - now I know this is radical, but hear me out - how about you scratch that EC bull#### and just, I don't know, throw the vote of every single voter in the US in one ####ing basket so that every vote actually counts the same?
Will obviously never happen, but I'll just never get my head around this.
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While it feels logical to us the schism this would cause in the Us is massive. Basically New York and California would determine each election. Zero chance the small states would cede the importance they currently hold over the entire process. The change I think that makes more sense is some sort of proportional allocation by state as to the electoral votes according to actual votes garnered. Right now a single vote victory nets you all of the electoral votes in almost every state, which is odd to me.
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07-28-2024, 04:06 PM
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#760
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
how about - now I know this is radical, but hear me out - how about you scratch that EC bull#### and just, I don't know, throw the vote of every single voter in the US in one ####ing basket so that every vote actually counts the same?
Will obviously never happen, but I'll just never get my head around this.
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While I don't necessarily disagree, I do find it amusing that if we look at Canada's last federal election we appointed a Prime minister whose party did not win the popular vote and gave the PQ 32 seats with only 1% more popular vote than the green party who got 2 seats.
I'm not sure which countries have it most right, but it's definitely not Canada or the US
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