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Old 10-08-2020, 11:39 AM   #741
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If he doesn't sign with ARZ, he can't get an 8th year anywhere, even if a team does trade for his rights.
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Lets be realistic. Even with the tampering rules, there are various degrees of tampering in the NHL before free agency. The issue is unless there is concrete proof of said tampering the NHL doesn't punish anyone for it.

I am just saying that when a team gives another team permission to talk to a high profile player like Hall, it is a pretty significant news item that will most likely get leaked to a mainstream insider.
Would they be giving formal permission when it seems they are trying to trade his rights?
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Just purely based on rumors, it does not seem like the Flames are not really going after Hall. At least not at much as Colorado and Montreal. Or even as much as Nashville, Columbus and Edmonton.

It's strange because it seems like a pretty natural match, based on Calgary as his hometown, Calgary's cap space, Calgary's consecutive playoff appearances, and Alberta's lower taxes (in comparison to Quebec).
I don't see how it makes sense to sign in Montreal over Calgary.
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Would they be giving formal permission when it seems they are trying to trade his rights?
No? Trading his rights is giving them the permission, it's the point of trading for rights to get exclusive negotation...I might be misunderstanding you though.

EDIT: Nevermind, I think we're on same page. Yeah, if they are trying to trade his rights then they wouldn't be giving permission to other teams.
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Do you ever wonder how the Rangers were able to sign Erixon when the Flames traded him not 5 minutes before the deadline?
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Would they be giving formal permission when it seems they are trying to trade his rights?
With free agency opening tomorrow, I really don't think anyone will trade a pick for his rights unless they can talk contract with him first.
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Old 10-08-2020, 11:44 AM   #747
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Old 10-08-2020, 11:44 AM   #748
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I like Schmidt, would be into that.
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Old 10-08-2020, 11:45 AM   #749
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Would they be giving formal permission when it seems they are trying to trade his rights?
Probably not. Unless a team wants to do a sign and trade to get the 8th year.
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Do you ever wonder how the Rangers were able to sign Erixon when the Flames traded him not 5 minutes before the deadline?
Erixon always wanted to go to the rangers so I'm sure it was easy. Glad to see it did not help his career lol
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Probably not. Unless a team wants to do a sign and trade to get the 8th year.
This hasn’t happened yet, correct? I’m somewhat surprised it hasn’t been done.
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Just purely based on rumors, it does not seem like the Flames are not really going after Hall. At least not at much as Colorado and Montreal. Or even as much as Nashville, Columbus and Edmonton.

It's strange because it seems like a pretty natural match, based on Calgary as his hometown, Calgary's cap space, Calgary's consecutive playoff appearances, and Alberta's lower taxes (in comparison to Quebec).
I don't see how it makes sense to sign in Montreal over Calgary.
Well, the Flames were prepared to give up Hanifin and Bennett for Hall a few months ago, so I'd think that interest hasn't gone away. It feels like the media never have the Flames in on the top guys available until right at the 'last minute' the past couple years iirc, at least heavily.
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I want Markstrom, Barrie & when a middle 6 winger to push Looch down to the 4th line. I think we could get that done.
I dont really want Barrie at all.

Still firmly in the Markstrom + Hall and move the money to make it work camp.
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With free agency opening tomorrow, I really don't think anyone will trade a pick for his rights unless they can talk contract with him first.
The pick is for the ability to talk contract with him.
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The pick is for the ability to talk contract with him.
or to get something instead of nothing
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Erixon always wanted to go to the rangers so I'm sure it was easy. Glad to see it did not help his career lol
Also, he signed a maximum ELC, so there wasn't much for them to negotiate.
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What time does free agency officially open?
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What time does free agency officially open?
Noon ET, I think?
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What time does free agency officially open?
Noon Eastern, so 10AM Calgary time.

As an aside, the deadline has been given for the start of UFA for OEL to be traded. If he is not gone by then, he will stay so that Arizona can move on with the day building their team. It's also speculated that OEL has made the process this difficult because that is his desired outcome, but he doesn't want to create a completely confrontational relationship with management.
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