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View Poll Results: How will Gaudreau-gate get resolved?
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sign after Frozen Four
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go back for his senior year and the Flames will trade him
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go back for his senior year and the Flames will sign him after
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go back for his senior year and holdout to sign with someone else Aug 15, 2015
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04-06-2014, 08:47 AM
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#741
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Originally Posted by gargamel
Yes, but then he couldn't play for the Heat in the playoffs.
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Why? He's old enough, no?
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04-06-2014, 09:04 AM
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#742
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by gargamel
Yes, but then he couldn't play for the Heat in the playoffs.
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I think the Flames would prefer to sign him to an NHL contract starting next season and sign him to a PTO with the Heat this season.
Plus, it seems unrealistic they are going to sign a contract, get him to Calgary, and get him in a game in 24 hours.
That said, if that is what Johnny wants and that is what it takes to sign him than the Flames will probably do it.
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04-06-2014, 09:05 AM
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#743
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Your lucky socks don't cause you to have multiple microphones in your face, cause you to have to answer difficult questions or write bad things about you that your friends and family read.
Players don't live in a bubble, and fan/media/organizational expectations are all linked and very much do play a role in his development
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His performance is what is causing these expectations. Unless he stops producing points... there are going to be expectations on him.
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04-06-2014, 10:09 AM
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#744
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
His performance is what is causing these expectations. Unless he stops producing points... there are going to be expectations on him.
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I agree, but that wasn't what you said. You said fan expectations won't affect his development and they certainly can
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04-06-2014, 10:34 AM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
I agree, but that wasn't what you said. You said fan expectations won't affect his development and they certainly can
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I don't see how. If a player is fragile enough to be negatively affected by fan angst, then it is likely that he was never going to break through in the first place.
Please explain how the expectations of total strangers will impact his development.
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04-06-2014, 12:01 PM
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#746
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I don't see how. If a player is fragile enough to be negatively affected by fan angst, then it is likely that he was never going to break through in the first place.
Please explain how the expectations of total strangers will impact his development.
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It's media expectations and they do. No man is an island. I'm not saying it will ruin him single handedly, but it is tough on players. Do players find it difficult to play in Toronto or Montreal? Quite honestly, I'm a little baffled I have to defend that assertion...
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04-06-2014, 12:13 PM
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#747
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Gaudreau's NHLE is 0.81 PPG, or a 66-point pace. That would make him our top scorer.
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04-06-2014, 12:19 PM
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#748
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Originally Posted by SebC
Gaudreau's NHLE is 0.81 PPG, or a 66-point pace. That would make him our top scorer.
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Better keep him in Abbotsford and off the Flames...don't wanna ruin our shot at McDavid/Eichel.
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04-06-2014, 12:22 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Gaskal
Better keep him in Abbotsford and off the Flames...don't wanna ruin our shot at McDavid/Eichel.
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I'd rather have this kid on the flames next season and enjoy watching us win more games now because of it than tanking before a season even starts in hopes we finish bottom 2 (which won't happen anyways because edmonton, florida and buffalo are all no good)
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04-06-2014, 12:33 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by SebC
Gaudreau's NHLE is 0.81 PPG, or a 66-point pace. That would make him our top scorer.
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You think if he plays a full NHL schedule next year, he'll hit those numbers?
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04-06-2014, 12:46 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by jg13
I'd rather have this kid on the flames next season and enjoy watching us win more games now because of it than tanking before a season even starts in hopes we finish bottom 2 (which won't happen anyways because edmonton, florida and buffalo are all no good)
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Better add Vancouver to that mix next year... I have a feeling the Canucks will be big game hunting for McDavid/Eichel by sucking really bad.
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04-06-2014, 12:48 PM
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#752
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Lifetime Suspension
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Nhle?
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04-06-2014, 12:51 PM
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#753
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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What on earth could still be getting talked about in this thread?
I can't wait until he signs and all this crap goes away.
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04-06-2014, 12:53 PM
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#754
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: In the now
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
Nhle?
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NHL-equivalency numbers.
Basically a study done on the difficulty of transitioning from various leagues (most commonly used for prospects, so AHL, NCAA, WHL) up to the NHL. The study converts a players' point-per-game rate into a prediction of their point-per-game rate if they were to play in the NHL next season.
http://www.behindthenet.ca/projecting_to_nhl.php
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04-06-2014, 12:55 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by puckluck2
Nhle?
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NHL Equivalence, I think.
Some weird fantasy stat, crazy unreliable, but fun to look at I guess. Basically converts points at different levels to points in the NHL (College points are worth X NHL points, AHL points are worth X NHL points, etc).
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04-06-2014, 12:58 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by strombad
NHL Equivalence, I think.
Some weird fantasy stat, crazy unreliable, but fun to look at I guess. Basically converts points at different levels to points in the NHL (College points are worth X NHL points, AHL points are worth X NHL points, etc).
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Correct. It is unreliable, but there is a caveat here. NHLE is basically formulated by calculating the difference in each player's performance from one level to the next in order to arrive at a global average. So, based on the performance of his peers in the NCAA who make the jump to the NHL, it is not unreasonable to expect Gaudreau to play at a 0.81 pt/game pace.
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04-06-2014, 01:01 PM
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#757
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: In the now
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Originally Posted by strombad
NHL Equivalence, I think.
Some weird fantasy stat, crazy unreliable, but fun to look at I guess. Basically converts points at different levels to points in the NHL (College points are worth X NHL points, AHL points are worth X NHL points, etc).
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100% based in historical data, but yes of course it is somewhat unreliable because it is an average. Some players go into the NHL and blow their predicted rate out of the water, some fall way short. The stat can't take into account the situation of each individual player (for example, Johnny being such a small player), but is a pretty good starting point for predictions.
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04-06-2014, 01:12 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: TEXAS!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by strombad
NHL Equivalence, I think.
Some weird fantasy stat, crazy unreliable, but fun to look at I guess. Basically converts points at different levels to points in the NHL (College points are worth X NHL points, AHL points are worth X NHL points, etc).
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As opposed to those super reliable stats that predict how athletes will perform the following season?
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04-06-2014, 01:15 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by formulate
100% based in historical data, but yes of course it is somewhat unreliable because it is an average. Some players go into the NHL and blow their predicted rate out of the water, some fall way short. The stat can't take into account the situation of each individual player (for example, Johnny being such a small player), but is a pretty good starting point for predictions.
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Yeah, exactly. It's a neat tool and an interesting way to evaluate talent but anyone using NHL-E solely is a bit of a whacko. It doesn't/can't take various other factors into account.
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04-06-2014, 01:15 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by BACKCHECK!!!
As opposed to those super reliable stats that predict how athletes will perform the following season?
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Don't know if that was his point...
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