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Old 01-20-2013, 10:53 AM   #741
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That was disgusting

The anti semitic rhetoric there was disgusting

Good for Ezra standing in there toe to toe with these ignorant f--ks
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:51 PM   #742
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That was disgusting to watch, they don't want to debate they want to bluster and throw out blank accusations of racism.

the Jewish comments and antisemitism was gross.

The more I watch its almost like its a pack of morons hiding behind blanket statements.

I feel bad for the people that started Idle No More movement they have to cringe when they see this.

Ezra came across as the voice of reason.

Its pretty clear that the same nutbars that ran with the Occupy Crowd have now pushed their way into the Idle movement.

What a bunch of ######s.

They can't debate because they don't know so they throw out racism accusations, I find that truly offensive and wonder if they understand what racism means.
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I'm hoping that he publishes the old lady at the end when he walked away from her looked her in the eye and said that's an embarrassing point of view.
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:56 PM   #744
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You know it`s bad when I`m siding with Ezra Levant.

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Old 01-20-2013, 02:11 PM   #745
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I tried very hard to watch that whole video. I made it to 6:41 and had to put it down as I was getting so irritated with them all just yelling stupid s*&^ so that no one could even make a point; not that anyone had a point to make from what I could tell.

Some native leaders had better step up soon and get control of this and either lead the people or tell them to shut up before they do more harm than good.

They don't have a clue what they want, or how to go about getting what they want should they ever decide what they want.

I predict this whole movement is going to backfire very badly in their faces similar to how this "hunger strike" has gone for Theresa Spence.

I have a native employee who moved here not long ago from Manitoba. I asked him the other day what he thought about the Idle No More movement and he kind of chuckled. He said his dad is very involved in Native politics in Manitoba and their goals are different than everyone elses. I guess they are concerned with proposed oil sands development similar to Alberta's which they feel will negatively impact the environment. His band started on board with the INM movement but have distanced themselves lately as they don't see it being a movement they want to be associated with. He also said that it seems part of the problem is that natives across Canada are using this movement but each band has a different agenda, some more legitimate that others, that he can't even keep up with what the movement is about any more.

I am not a racist by any stretch. I have native friends and have been around numerous reserves and had many personal experiences with natives and the "way things work" on and off the reserve. Call me what you want but I do have a level of distrust and distaste for the way my money, my tax money, is being wasted by our government and being put in their hands to waste it even more wantonly. It's not racist. I have the very same distrust and distaste for Quebec and the crap that comes along with it.

Jump on me if you will, but in my experience there are a lot of natives who want more, more, more and believe that they are entitled due to the sins of many, many years ago. They believe that they are immune to change. Natives were killing each other for land long before the white man came along. If white men never came along what would have happened? Nobody knows. That's history boys, sorry. Natives talk about ancestral hunting rights then whack moose and deer with high-powered hunting rifles and carry them out of the bush on their quad. So what do you want in that instance? Tradition or not? Change only when it suits you? Natives believe that they can do what they want, hunting and fishing wise, because that's what their ancestors did. Our ancestors did bad things to the natives so should that carry on too? It seems a lot of their arguments are based on history making it right for them to do the things they do, but history makes us pay for what "we" did.

Again, call me what you want. Call me a racist. I'm admittedly not terribly educated on all the issues so I have based my opinions on what I feel. These people have a chance, over and over, to voice their concerns, educate me and possibly change my mind but they seem to always fail to do so and call me a racist instead. This video just shows it again on a very small scale. If you people just want to yell for the sake of yelling, I'm out and I will continue my so-called racist opinion against you.

Huh, sorry. I just started ranting there!
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:13 PM   #746
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You know it`s bad when I`m siding with Ezra Levant.

If you bring reason and logic to the table and apply it to that video, how can you not?
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:20 PM   #747
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Not sure if serious? Rig pig is a pretty common term.
No, I was kidding. I just though it was funny how Rig Pig was an accepted term but a previous poster insinuated that these protesters may not have jobs and got jumped on. Some generalizations are more acceptable than others I guess.
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I tried very hard to watch that whole video. I made it to 6:41 and had to put it down as I was getting so irritated with them all just yelling stupid s*&^ so that no one could even make a point; not that anyone had a point to make from what I could tell.

Some native leaders had better step up soon and get control of this and either lead the people or tell them to shut up before they do more harm than good.

They don't have a clue what they want, or how to go about getting what they want should they ever decide what they want.

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You should fast forward to the 9:45 mark and then watch a couple of minutes. The guy with is kid on his shoulders must have had a different ww2 textbook than i did.
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The guy with the kid on his shoulders can barely think.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:15 PM   #750
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You should fast forward to the 9:45 mark and then watch a couple of minutes. The guy with is kid on his shoulders must have had a different ww2 textbook than i did.
I finally made myself get through the rest of the video. Less yelling did make it more tolerable but unfortunately the rest of the video did nothing to change my opinions.

That dude should really put the kid down and read a book if he wants to spout s&^%.
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I'm hoping that one day his kid grows up and looks at his or her dad with love and affection and an understanding that he's an ill informed moron.

The reality is that he'll pass on his views to his kid and the kid will be equally ill informed.
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http://www.torontosun.com/videos/2104762079001
Sun Media becomes the target of more protests from the Idle No More Movement. Ezra Levant, host of "The Source" joins Brian Dunstan with more.
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Oh man hell must be freezing over because Ezra is making more sense...
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:59 PM   #754
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Can't really agree with Ezra here though I guess I see his point. First and foremost the police need to try and keep the peace and try to keep everyone involved safe. They really need to pick their hills to die on. From what I can see there might have been six to ten officers there and at least fifty protesters. While I like what Ezra was doing, when things appear that they could get out of hand the easy move is to remove the agitator rather than the "agitatees", right or wrong. I don't disagree with the police and how they handled that.
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Can't really agree with Ezra here though I guess I see his point. First and foremost the police need to try and keep the peace and try to keep everyone involved safe. They really need to pick their hills to die on. From what I can see there might have been six to ten officers there and at least fifty protesters. While I like what Ezra was doing, when things appear that they could get out of hand the easy move is to remove the agitator rather than the "agitatees", right or wrong. I don't disagree with the police and how they handled that.
Oh hell no. The job of the police force is to enforce the law, not interpret the law!! That's the job of the court system. As soon as you start letting them interpret the law (.05 law!) you start creating different treatment/prosecution "rules" for different groups of people.

Ezra did absolutely nothing wrong (and to be honest neither did the protestors). The cops should have stayed away / watched the situation to see if things changed. Like he said the job of a cop isnt to do the "easy thing", but to do the right thing...aka enforce the law.
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Old 01-20-2013, 07:38 PM   #756
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Ezra wasn't making any quality arguments by the looks of it either, the guy is a complete buffoon as it is. That video was just a big cluster**** of pointless questions, pointless answers, and pointless yelling.
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Ezra wasn't making any quality arguments by the looks of it either, the guy is a complete buffoon as it is. That video was just a big cluster**** of pointless questions, pointless answers, and pointless yelling.

How was he not making quality arguments, besides he really wasn't out there to argue, he was out there asking questions about why they are protesting, why they think he's racist, and what they don't like about the Indian Act.

If this had been Ezra debating the protesters, chances are he would have wiped the floor with them (which he really did anyways), he seems to know more about the protest then the protesters do
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Ezra wasn't making any quality arguments by the looks of it either, the guy is a complete buffoon as it is. That video was just a big cluster**** of pointless questions, pointless answers, and pointless yelling.

Wow i bet you thought for a second..nah....oh wait confirmation bias
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Ezra's commentary on the police response there was very on point - their response is shaped by the directions they're being given and those directions are clearly political. It's much simpler for the police if they're in the law enforcement business; fewer judgment calls.
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