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Old 03-09-2023, 12:17 PM   #7421
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https://globalnews.ca/news/3279050/a...ient-products/

So...about 2/3rds of a war room....1/4 of the cost we've spent stockpiling turkish tylenol, or 0.01% of a Keystone XL bet.
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Old 03-09-2023, 12:18 PM   #7422
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If the NDP stated they’d implement a PST, I actually wonder if that would help them get elected.
The thing is, if there were enough voters in Alberta that could take a platform like a PST implementation and consider all sides of it before voting, Notley/NDP would have nothing to worry about in this election.

But, unfortunately, there aren't. And the NDP has a lot to worry about.
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Old 03-09-2023, 12:43 PM   #7423
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Properly funded healthcare, Education, mental health support and other stuff Albertans need?
People should just live healthy lifestyles and homeschool their kids. Problem solved. </UCP>
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Old 03-09-2023, 12:52 PM   #7424
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Why would I use that stuff when I can get it now from the normal supply chain? It's mostly back in stock, and I'm not spending money on non english labelled stuff when my customers can also purchase the normal stuff


This was the concern I voiced at the time
That's because you put some thought and consideration into medicines. It's not at all like that pre-stage 4 cancer treatment bull#### medicine.

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Old 03-09-2023, 08:07 PM   #7426
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Some interesting discussion about Take Back Alberta taking over the UCP.


Apparently they believe the own the government now.
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“Bet”
The province has always been pretty terrible at making bets.

So, in a sense, the Sturgeon Refinery contract is a multibillion-dollar bet against pipelines getting built. It's worth noting that by investing in the Keystone XL pipeline, the Alberta government also has a multibillion-dollar direct bet on that pipeline getting built, so we're now guaranteed to lose billions on at least one major government industrial policy bet. Fantastic.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...nwrp-1.5718044
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The province has always been pretty terrible at making bets.

So, in a sense, the Sturgeon Refinery contract is a multibillion-dollar bet against pipelines getting built. It's worth noting that by investing in the Keystone XL pipeline, the Alberta government also has a multibillion-dollar direct bet on that pipeline getting built, so we're now guaranteed to lose billions on at least one major government industrial policy bet. Fantastic.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...nwrp-1.5718044
Sadly this s**tshow didn't even register with voters and probably never will.
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Old 03-10-2023, 10:29 AM   #7430
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1.3 billion scratch lottery ticket.
Which was already mostly scratched off showing it to be a loser, but we bought it just in case it wasn't
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Old 03-10-2023, 10:30 AM   #7431
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Sadly this s**tshow didn't even register with voters and probably never will.
"At least they are trying to help the industry"
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Old 03-10-2023, 11:13 AM   #7432
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Sadly this s**tshow didn't even register with voters and probably never will.
Somehow an NDP goverment would have made it worse.

- UCP supporters
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Old 03-10-2023, 11:23 AM   #7433
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"At least they are trying to help the industry"
The only winners were Mr. Edwards and the rest of the CNQ shareholders.
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Would be nice if the "free contraceptives" idea could also be expanded to cover other medical drugs.
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Old 03-10-2023, 01:21 PM   #7435
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Would be nice if the "free contraceptives" idea could also be expanded to cover other medical drugs.

I agree. Universal pharmacare is part of the federal NDP platform. It's moving forward a small amount as part of the NDP-Liberal cooperation.
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Old 03-11-2023, 08:16 AM   #7436
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We have a financially manageable pharmacare here in BC that's means tested and works great. Essentially you pay 100% until a first deductible on all covered medications, then you pay 30% until you hit another deductible, then you pay 0. For example, if you make $40,000 you would pay all of the first $1,100 then you'd only pay 30% after that until you've spent a total of $1,500. If you make under $30,000 you start out paying only 30%.

https://www.health.gov.bc.ca/pharmac...alculator.html


It's not meant to be the primary insurance, but to backstop someone going broke over drug expenses. There's biologic medication for various autoimmune diseases that can be $600-$5000 a month. There's also hepatitis meds that are $20,000 a month. Some diabetics spend over $5k a year for meds and supplies. For those without other coverage it is the backstop. The biggest advantage is that it's a single administration solution for all the disparate programs for drug coverage (specialty meds, cystic fibrosis meds, privately supplied nursing homes, low income/income assistance, etc). Alberta uses Alberta Blue Cross to administer many of the different programs but they're not a government agency so it's at arm's length and the programs have different coverage cards, rules, etc. In BC, I just send every prescription to pharmacare and they pay or don't pay. Very simple

Alberta seniors would be very, very against this though as this plan is for everyone regardless of age and we don't have a seniors plan like Alberta does. If your retirement brings lower income then your deductible lowers as well in BC. In Alberta, you're covered regardless of income and pay a maximum of $25 per prescription once your &gt; 65yo
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The province has always been pretty terrible at making bets.

So, in a sense, the Sturgeon Refinery contract is a multibillion-dollar bet against pipelines getting built. It's worth noting that by investing in the Keystone XL pipeline, the Alberta government also has a multibillion-dollar direct bet on that pipeline getting built, so we're now guaranteed to lose billions on at least one major government industrial policy bet. Fantastic.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...nwrp-1.5718044
Trudeau ####ed both by supporting the Alberta economy and building TMX.

Now Alberta will lose money on Sturgeon because of the pipeline and it will lose money on Keystone because it won’t be built.

Thanks Trudeau
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Old 03-11-2023, 06:44 PM   #7438
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Trudeau ####ed both by supporting the Alberta economy and building TMX.

Now Alberta will lose money on Sturgeon because of the pipeline and it will lose money on Keystone because it won’t be built.

Thanks Trudeau
How is Trudeau responsible for keystone not being built?
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How is Trudeau responsible for keystone not being built?
The same way he’s responsible for most things that he really isn’t responsible for. Seriously, clean it up Sliver.
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How is Trudeau responsible for keystone not being built?
It is pretty obvious he decided to #### Alberta because he knew in 2018 when he went all in on TMX that the Conservatives in Alberta would burn the governments money in 2020 once they got rid of the socialists. The guy is clairvoyant.

Do we actually think conservatives would make terrible economic decision after terrible economic decision or do we think Trudeau actively plans to #### Alberta by seeing the future? Come on man, use your head. Trudeau ####ed us again.
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