Official WWE/ECW/WCW/TNA talk, or whatever v2

[TheIronMaiden]

Survivor series is what, teams of six?

You have to imagine that it will be the Wyatt sicks vs whom ever.

[trackercowe]

The way HBK put his career on the line against Undertaker was the right way to do it... where he had a reason to put it all on the line for one last shot against Taker. It was the only way he was going to get that rematch.

I don't know why AEW just didn't do the same, with Danielson putting his career on the line against Swerve for the title match at All In. Instead they gave him the win in the Owen Hart tournament. The whole thing is kinda unnecessary. Yet Tony loves having random tournaments, battle royales, gauntlet matches, eliminator matches, scrambles, ladder matches, and other means to get title opportunities.

Heck Darby Allen won some battle royale on Rampage for a Title shot in a month. Meanwhile he has a shot at Perry's title at the PPV. Why book someone to have a shot at two different titles at the same time? It's the same as Pac winning that four way... then they conveniently forgot about it. It's just very poor, confusing booking all-around. Let alone when they often consider rankings and win/loss records... The worst is that at other times wrestlers just ask Tony for title shots and he gives it to them.

Tony continues to be his own worst enemy. Now they're defending CMLL title as well? Not everyone on the roster needs a title! It's become confusing. You notice how even though TNA stars are appearing on NXT it never involves TNA titles. This is probably one reason why Joe Hendry did not win the TNA World Title, as they didn't want to bring that belt over. It's unnecessary overbooking.

I'll say it again, again, and again. AEW has some remarkable talent. It's great they have more creative freedom than WWE. That's why I watch, as WWE's style is often overly coordinated and manufactured. Yet the booking in AEW is brutal. So is Chris Jericho... why is he on every single Dynamite?

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Survivor series is what, teams of six?

You have to imagine that it will be the Wyatt sicks vs whom ever.

4 vs 4. Unless they get put in a major storyline I doubt it's the Wyatt Sicks.

[SuperMatt18]

I think we could see two matches.

I think we might see Wyatt Sicks vs a Reformed Judgement Day (Balor, JD, Dom, Carlito, Liv)

And I think the main expectation is New Bloodline vs Old Bloodline.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

And I think the main expectation is New Bloodline vs Old Bloodline.

I'm curious how that'd work. Roman + the Usos is only 3, and I can't see them putting The Rock in a War Games match.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I'm curious how that'd work. Roman + the Usos is only 3, and I can't see them putting The Rock in a War Games match.

Sami Zayn imo. Especially with the card being in Canada. It's a lock that he'll be in that match. I actually think Roman's side loses that match (due to interference by Hikuleo). That'll put over the New Bloodline huge. Eventually it has to lead to singles matches against Solo and Jacob Fatu.

[Inferno]

I was thinking maybe they would have The Rock turn on Roman at WarGames and setup a match for WrestleMania but you would think The Rock would be pissed at him for dropping the belt.

Unless they had him think that he forgave him and that they both needed to teach Solo a lesson only for him to turn on him and cost them the match.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Sami Zayn imo. Especially with the card being in Canada. It's a lock that he'll be in that match. I actually think Roman's side loses that match (due to interference by Hikuleo). That'll put over the New Bloodline huge. Eventually it has to lead to singles matches against Solo and Jacob Fatu.

But Sami's problems were with Roman more than Solo, so they'll need to get creative with that.

Originally Posted by Inferno

I was thinking maybe they would have The Rock turn on Roman at WarGames and setup a match for WrestleMania but you would think The Rock would be pissed at him for dropping the belt.

Unless they had him think that he forgave him and that they both needed to teach Solo a lesson only for him to turn on him and cost them the match.

I definitely think they'll try to set up The Rock vs. Roman at Mania via a turn.

[trackercowe]

I definitely think The Rock will be the "mastermind" behind the New Bloodline. Solo did it for the Rock... he did it for the people.

Yet I think the aim has to be to put Solo and the other members over. The Rock is a part timer, and only has 1 or 2 matches left in him. I would hope Solo goes over Roman at some point, it just won't be a clean finish.

But Sami's problems were with Roman more than Solo, so they'll need to get creative with that.

Absolutely, but he's an Honorary Uce. You gotta think he'll have Jey's back. They've already shown as much... he'll be there, like a brother would be, in a time of need. I don't think it needs to be him against Solo... moreso he's with Jey, Jimmy, and Roman. It'll just take some convincing on their part.

I would expect Orton vs. Rhodes at Survivor Series as well. They need to slide that feud in before Wrestlemania season.

[TheIronMaiden]

Doing the New vs Old bloodline stuff for a "B" PLE seems premature no? Though you can imagine that people will be watching for Roman to return this Saturday.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I'm curious how that'd work. Roman + the Usos is only 3, and I can't see them putting The Rock in a War Games match.

Think it's a couple of options.

Rock, Roman, Jimmy, Jey - Rock turns on Roman and turns out he was behind the new bloodline the whole time.

Roman, Jimmy, Jey, Sami - Guys have gotten back together in wrestling after lesser fueds ... reconciling with Sami would also be a big push for "Face Roman"

Roman, Jimmy, Jey, Hikuleo - Having a debutant on this side of things could make sense too.

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Doing the New vs Old bloodline stuff for a "B" PLE seems premature no? Though you can imagine that people will be watching for Roman to return this Saturday.

Survivor Series is the 4th of the Big 4.

It doesn't make sense for Wrestlemania...that needs to be more of a 1:1 payoff.

Summerslam next year is way too long out.

So it's Royal Rumble or Survivor Series IMO.

[Ozy_Flame]

Logan Paul being a misinformed, transphobic POS today. Not sure why WWE stills thinks this guy is good for business, but I guess money makes the world go round.

[Blaster86]

Well... I guess I should spend some money

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Logan Paul being a misinformed, transphobic POS today. Not sure why WWE stills thinks this guy is good for business, but I guess money makes the world go round.

Well it is the summer Olympics, so I'm really looking forward to seeing the gymnastics routine Triple H performs to avoid answering questions about this on at the presser on Saturday night.

[Ozy_Flame]

Triple H is going to say whatever TKO tells him to say.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Well it is the summer Olympics, so I'm really looking forward to seeing the gymnastics routine Triple H performs to avoid answering questions about this on at the presser on Saturday night.

He didn't read the tweet. He really wants to focus on the positives.

The upsetting part about Logan Paul, for me, is that he is particularly good at this whole "professional wrestler" thing and that keeps glossing over in my mind the fact that he is a massive pile of human garbage until he says or does something that reminds me.

[TheIronMaiden]

Logan Paul is a Heel, a true heel in Kayfabe and Shoot.
It's what makes him so brilliant, he blurs the lines.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Logan Paul is a Heel, a true heel in Kayfabe and Shoot.
It's what makes him so brilliant, he blurs the lines.

Didn't know Vince McMahon posted here.

You don't have to be an outright bigoted piece of #### to be a good heel. That's the worst kind of cheap heat.

[Muta]

Also, have you actually had one of Logan's Prime sports drinks? Absolutely disgusting stuff. I couldn't even finish one bottle.

[trackercowe]

To Paul's credit he did backtrack his comments and said he spread misinformation about the boxer. This was posted after his initial tweet. Many initially thought the same as Paul, until they found out Khelif was born female.

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