American Politics Thread: Orange is the new POTUS

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

But if the roles were reversed and Hillary was president, would you be tooting the same horn? There's also a ton of smoke with the Clintons and all of their shady dealings, but that get's overlooked for some reason.

She couldn't even fairly beat a 74 year old socialist for the party designation. The hypocrisy is thick!

If Hillary is an issue like you say she is, then Trump should get an investigation going on her...

I mean, he only controls the 3 houses of government and has a hand picked monkey as the AG, a conservative majority in the supreme court and clearly does not like Hillary.

I'll save any outrage until there is an actual investigation launched by the Trump administration and it uncovers, you know, facts...

not the 'alternative facts' that seem to satisfy Trump supporters... you guys should have all the facts you need on Hillary's pedophilia ring and the murders orchestrated by the Clintons by now... its been what? 25 years?

Talk about being thick
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[photon]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Yeah how much evidence is there of Trump and Russia collusion??? I haven't seen anything that isn't beyond conjecture, which would put it in the same category of conspiracy as your favourite "pizzagate".

Why would you expect to know about the evidence? Are you unclear on how investigations work?

There's sufficient evidence for there to be a grand jury now. Subpoenas have already gone out, meaning the jury thought there was sufficient cause to warrant sending out subpoenas.

EDIT: At the very least Trump Jr. admitted to campaign finance law violations, but I doubt they'd convene a grand jury for that.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

What, the Hillary campaigns alleged connections with foreign entities including Russia and the Ukraine........ Where in the blue @$#% is all the outrage?????

Oh fun, whataboutism. Yay.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Hillary Clinton had a very high position in the government and it makes total sense that she would have been in contact with foreign leaders over a number of issues.

Especially brokering uranium deals.

If there's nothing to hide, why bother disposing of all those emails? If Trump had done this, you all would be lampooning him for it.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Yes, if the roles were reversed and Hillary was president and was in bed with the Russians as much as Trump seems like he might have been/might be, they should be looking at her first.

One is the current president, one is not. The one who is running the country should be looked at now, not later.

Not sure what the problem is. If he's innocent then what's the issue?

Where's the evidence? They have been going on about this collusion for almost a year without anything other then conjecture and "anonymous sources".

[Thor]

lol the delusion

[DuffMan]

If only Chelsea had meetings with Russians to get dirt on Littlehands, and Hillary helped her write a lie, after she became president. If only.

[Illuminaughty]

I see the whole garrison has been alerted. Man the battle stations!

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

I see the whole garrison has been alerted. Man the battle stations!

I welcome debating any rational Trump supporters...

Invite as many many as you want...

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

I see the whole garrison has been alerted. Man the battle stations!

Pretty sure there's a pill for that.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by Minnie

Pretty sure there's a pill for that.

edit: wrong post sorry

[Coach]

Ahhh the periodic reminder that the ignore list is a thing and that I have exactly one person on it.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Especially brokering uranium deals.

Trotting out all the tortured falsehoods?

She didn't broker a deal, she wasn't involved in the deal at all, it was a private deal between corporations. She was one of 9 departments that had to give feedback on the deal, but she could neither approve nor disapprove, she had no power.

Keep up the misinformation campaign though.

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

If there's nothing to hide, why bother disposing of all those emails? If Trump had done this, you all would be lampooning him for it.

Because they were personal emails, the government has no need or right to have them. Jeb Bush deleted his personal emails. GWB "lost" millions of emails. Rubio deleted emails. Romney deleted all his emails from when he was governor.

You're wondering where the outrage is, where's your outrage over all the others who've deleted emails?

[MoneyGuy]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Ahhh the periodic reminder that the ignore list is a thing and that I have exactly one person on it.

I have four and love that feature.

Oh wait, maybe you can't read this.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by photon

Trotting out all the tortured falsehoods?

She didn't broker a deal, she wasn't involved in the deal at all, it was a private deal between corporations. She was one of 9 departments that had to give feedback on the deal, but she could neither approve nor disapprove, she had no power.

Keep up the misinformation campaign though.



Because they were personal emails, the government has no need or right to have them. Jeb Bush deleted his personal emails. GWB "lost" millions of emails. Rubio deleted emails. Romney deleted all his emails from when he was governor.

You're wondering where the outrage is, where's your outrage over all the others who've deleted emails?

Don't you get it, Libtard? It's because she has a vagina.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by photon

Because a) there's little evidence that she did anything and b) it doesn't matter to anyone other than her. If she gets convicted of something it doesn't change anything at all, so no one cares other than her.

If Russia had meddled to try and get Clinton elected, maybe it'd be different. But they didn't.



Straw men are fun! No one says that's the reason she lost.

Russia's meddling is a factor, but it's impossible to say how great a factor. There were plenty of other factors.



Lol, Comey covered for Clinton? Comey's late statements about her emails are something where the effect could be measured, and her loss can be greatly attributed to Comey's actions.

He didn't fall on his sword for her, he got fired because Trump didn't like that Comey was investigating his campaign (Trump said this himself). Trump thought Dems would LIKE him firing Comey for what he'd said during the campaign (he's that dumb).

How she handled her emails was clearly not criminal.



What hook? For Seth Rich's murder??!

LOL you call it a straw man, then admit it's a factor. She lost because she was a horrible candidate that nobody trusted. She was blacking out on the campaign trail and questions of her fitness to handle the rigors of the job seemed adequate.

One of the points that this separate investigation that is being called upon is about the contents of those emails. Comey didn't have the authority to make a ruling on whether her actions were criminal or not. Comey said Trump was never being investigated, did you miss that part? Trump should have fired him once he took office, but Trump gonna keep Trumping.

Deleting her emails after she had been subpoenaed is indicative of criminality.

Seth Rich murder, the one who was likely responsible for those DNC leaks.

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by photon

Trotting out all the tortured falsehoods?

She didn't broker a deal, she wasn't involved in the deal at all, it was a private deal between corporations. She was one of 9 departments that had to give feedback on the deal, but she could neither approve nor disapprove, she had no power.

Keep up the misinformation campaign though.



Because they were personal emails, the government has no need or right to have them. Jeb Bush deleted his personal emails. GWB "lost" millions of emails. Rubio deleted emails. Romney deleted all his emails from when he was governor.

You're wondering where the outrage is, where's your outrage over all the others who've deleted emails?

Because because because WHAT ABOUT CROOKED HILLARY? WHAT ABOUT BAD BAD OBAMA? What about, what about, what about - Trump and devotees taking a page right out of the Soviet Union's playbook. Never mind about that other nonsense, Photon. I mean really, what are you thinking?

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

You should start a Hillary thread

Why? I thought you lefties were all about diversity and inclusion... Clearly not when it comes to a difference of opinion.

Am I interrupting your game of soft lob tennis?

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by Illuminaughty

Seth Rich murder, the one who was likely responsible for those DNC leaks.

Sweet mother of fruit flies.

[KelVarnsen]

So Illuminaughty is Sean Hannity?