[Rumour] LeBrun: As of right now, sounds like Andersson only wants to sign extension with VGK

[Calgary4LIfe]

Issues that seem to be negatively impacting the Calgary Flames:

• Flames are not an organization capable of attracting notable UFAs
• Flames have more trouble trading for players since many have the Flames on NTCs
• Flames have trouble acquiring players even without NTCs because they won't re-sign here (see Hague).
• Flames haven't managed their own assets very efficiently over the last 3-4 seasons (Gaudreau walking, Tkachuk bridge leading to leaving, Hanifin return)

Strengths of the organization:

• Drafting
• Development.

Is there another strength I missed? Coaches aren't walking all over each other trying to get to the front of the line here in Calgary.



It isn't all doom and gloom, and that's not the point of this post at all. The point of this post is that Calgary has absolutely not choice but to really lean-into what they are elite at - drafting and development. I believe Calgary is doing that, but I guess we will have to see how it ends up. I have the Flames near the bottom of the standings, so let's see if they exceed expectations twice in a row.



I think Conroy just needs to remain patient when it comes to Andersson. Maybe Vegas pivots and decides to just sign Brent Burns to fill their spot (good luck with that), but I don't think Vegas will be the only team that Rasmus will be willing to sign with. RHS Top 4 D are valuable, and Rasmus is unquestionably the best one available right now. I am sure Conroy will make a good trade here - I thought the Hanifin trade was good under the circumstances, and this will be no different. It could have been a home-run hit - just like Hanifin's should have been as well - but it is what it is now. This was the last valuable trade chip for the Flames to use for their rebuild, so from that standpoint, it is a little disheartening at this point (though I am optimistic the return will be better than I am expecting now).



I trust Conroy. However, I also think that this team is designed to be a competitive bottom 5 team. I wouldn't be so trusting of Conroy right now if I really believed "We are going for playoffs" as an actual target. I see this as a more believable Jay Feaster target (that he then had to clarify from the pressure and blowback!). I guess we will see. I do think the Flames won't bottom out for long, however, if they do end up bottoming-out. The last thing we want is another era of Young-Guns coming up whee the young-guns aren't all that talented outside of a couple, nor do we want to see a bunch of moves being made trying to shore this team and end up with another era of 'bubble bobble' as I like to call it - inside playoffs, outside playoffs, and no real playoff success.


The moves not made made me happy today. Was really worried that Conroy was going to really make a few moves to shore up the team artificially. I think internal grown leaning into what the Flames are good at is the key long-term here. They are elite at it, so this makes me very optimistic.

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Issues that seem to be negatively impacting the Calgary Flames:

• Flames are not an organization capable of attracting notable UFAs
• Flames have more trouble trading for players since many have the Flames on NTCs
• Flames have trouble acquiring players even without NTCs because they won't re-sign here (see Hague).
• Flames haven't managed their own assets very efficiently over the last 3-4 seasons (Gaudreau walking, Tkachuk bridge leading to leaving, Hanifin return)

Strengths of the organization:

• Drafting
• Development.

Is there another strength I missed? Coaches aren't walking all over each other trying to get to the front of the line here in Calgary.



It isn't all doom and gloom, and that's not the point of this post at all. The point of this post is that Calgary has absolutely not choice but to really lean-into what they are elite at - drafting and development. I believe Calgary is doing that, but I guess we will have to see how it ends up. I have the Flames near the bottom of the standings, so let's see if they exceed expectations twice in a row.



I think Conroy just needs to remain patient when it comes to Andersson. Maybe Vegas pivots and decides to just sign Brent Burns to fill their spot (good luck with that), but I don't think Vegas will be the only team that Rasmus will be willing to sign with. RHS Top 4 D are valuable, and Rasmus is unquestionably the best one available right now. I am sure Conroy will make a good trade here - I thought the Hanifin trade was good under the circumstances, and this will be no different. It could have been a home-run hit - just like Hanifin's should have been as well - but it is what it is now. This was the last valuable trade chip for the Flames to use for their rebuild, so from that standpoint, it is a little disheartening at this point (though I am optimistic the return will be better than I am expecting now).



I trust Conroy. However, I also think that this team is designed to be a competitive bottom 5 team. I wouldn't be so trusting of Conroy right now if I really believed "We are going for playoffs" as an actual target. I see this as a more believable Jay Feaster target (that he then had to clarify from the pressure and blowback!). I guess we will see. I do think the Flames won't bottom out for long, however, if they do end up bottoming-out. The last thing we want is another era of Young-Guns coming up whee the young-guns aren't all that talented outside of a couple, nor do we want to see a bunch of moves being made trying to shore this team and end up with another era of 'bubble bobble' as I like to call it - inside playoffs, outside playoffs, and no real playoff success.


The moves not made made me happy today. Was really worried that Conroy was going to really make a few moves to shore up the team artificially. I think internal grown leaning into what the Flames are good at is the key long-term here. They are elite at it, so this makes me very optimistic.

Excellent post. Exactly how I am thinking. If the Flames do improve and winning comes back then the team could become more attractive to players. Having a new facility coming helps too. For the time being focus on identifying talented young players and developing them. Do the best with drafting and developing. Let the rest come to you over time.

[BaconGuy]

Connie probably has his directives from ownership and he is playing the cards that he is dealt. He isn’t allowed to go full scorched earth on the rebuild so he has no choice but to retool in a competitive fashion

Also probably why you’re not seeing him weaponize the cap space we all thought would happen. Ownership does not want to play a dollar more during non-contention years. Cheap asses!!

[traptor]

The team is fine attracting players when things are good. When we're on the upswing with Gaudreau and Chucky the team was able to attract talent.


This current group is still lacking that new exciting core. Guys like sharangovich and Frost are just placeholders.


Wolf, coronato and hopefully Parehk are the beginning of that but there's still alot of uncertainty and building to do. In a few years we will be an attractive destination again.




I'm not worried because frankly UFAs should be our last priority right now.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by BaconGuy

Connie probably has his directives from ownership and he is playing the cards that he is dealt. He isn’t allowed to go full scorched earth on the rebuild so he has no choice but to retool in a competitive fashion

Also probably why you’re not seeing him weaponize the cap space we all thought would happen. Ownership does not want to play a dollar more during non-contention years. Cheap asses!!

This is how I see it too. There's a bit of upward management. Connies not allowed to burn it to the ground but he's removing what he can as he can.


If you want to be a seriously competitive team you're not icing the goalie tandem we are next year.


He knows we need high end talent from the draft and he's doing as much as he can to get us to the bottom within the parameters set by management that are designed to keep asses in chairs.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We haven’t had issues attracting players but they don’t come to teams that are in the middle of whatever it is Edwards has directed here.

They need more picks as you said and lean into drafting like they have. But at some point we will need elite players because picking 15th will keep us in a vicious cycle.

I do see this team bottoming out this upcoming season.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Toast_Man

2006 The Wickerman?

Whichever version is, in your opinion, harder to sit through and therefore a more antagonistic reference in the opinion of the yokels.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

It's concerning that the Flames identified Hague as a target at all. Not a guy they need — entirely redundant.

When did the flames do that?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

When did the flames do that?

Friedman implied on the Kyper and Borne show today if Hague was willing to sign in Calgary that deal would have been done

[Sandman]

Nvm

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Sandman

Is it true that Friedman made a comment today on the Fan590 that Kadri wants to go back to the Leafs?

https://motorcyclesports.net/nazem-k...-their-lineup/

Per this article, Hockey insider Elliotte Friedman noted, “One name to keep an eye on for Toronto is Nazem Kadri… I’m hearing that there are serious desires from both sides for a reunion.”

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Nelson

https://motorcyclesports.net/nazem-k...-their-lineup/

Per this article, Hockey insider Elliotte Friedman noted, “One name to keep an eye on for Toronto is Nazem Kadri… I’m hearing that there are serious desires from both sides for a reunion.”

But what the heck do they have, that Flames would want?

[Hackey]

Andersson and Kadri moved would be a good start to the off season.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Nelson

https://motorcyclesports.net/nazem-k...-their-lineup/

Per this article, Hockey insider Elliotte Friedman noted, “One name to keep an eye on for Toronto is Nazem Kadri… I’m hearing that there are serious desires from both sides for a reunion.”

Apparently this is completely fake from what I saw on Reddit and Friedman never said there was mutual interest on both sides

[Rhett44]

Originally Posted by BaconGuy

Connie probably has his directives from ownership and he is playing the cards that he is dealt. He isn’t allowed to go full scorched earth on the rebuild so he has no choice but to retool in a competitive fashion

Also probably why you’re not seeing him weaponize the cap space we all thought would happen. Ownership does not want to play a dollar more during non-contention years. Cheap asses!!

Yep, honestly any time I criticize management I include ownership on it as well. I am really hoping someone else can take over the team soon and we can get a change of direction.

I am actually not upset at Conroy at all, I know he gets marching orders on not rebuilding. And to try to sneak in playoff games at the deadline instead of selling off old assets. It is what it is.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Andersson and Kadri moved would be a good start to the off season.

For picks and prospects…… yes…

[Mephisto]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

For picks and prospects…… yes…

Nope - Kadri will be in Calgary. He likes it here.

Team Tank will stay sad.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Mephisto

Nope - Kadri will be in Calgary. He likes it here.

Team Tank will stay sad.

I’m fine if they stay to be honest. I’m not really as invested emotionally anymore. I’ll always cheer for them but also can’t control anything so meh!

Calgary ain’t winning a cup anytime soon, all good! They won’t until they fully commit to a rebuild, just my opinion. Can’t half ass it. Won’t work. Need elite talent. Calgary can only acquire said talent through the draft. End of story.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Apparently this is completely fake from what I saw on Reddit and Friedman never said there was mutual interest on both sides

I’m not surprised Motorcycle Sports doesn’t have accurate information about hockey. Is this all from Benoit for Hart on Twitter? I read a tweet that says, “‘One name to keep an on eye on for Toronto is Nazem Kadri… I’m hearing that there are serious desires from both sides for a reunion.’

- Elliotte Friedman on Sportsnet 590 the Fan”

[ComixZone]

Yeah I wasted some time earlier today looking to see where Friedman would have said that regarding Kadri…couldn’t find anything.

It’s fake as far as I know.