Theoren Fleury

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

I wonder if the enablers around him leads to a reoccurrence of his addictions. There are certainly enough bad actors out there who'd exploit him until he was of no further use to him.

I met Theo just after his 21st birthday at a bar downtown when my girlfriend came to me and told me this idiot wont leave me alone and keeps asking for a birthday "present", only after I told him I would break his neck if he didn't stop did he apologise, and he did it with a smirk.

After that I seen him in action many times and it's very likely his first wife cause him more mental troubles than Mr. James ever did. I have never and never will buy into his trauma excuses from James for being an idiot, he's simply just a low IQ moron who got caught up in stardom.

[SportsJunky]

Meth is a hell of a drug.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

I met Theo just after his 21st birthday at a bar downtown when my girlfriend came to me and told me this idiot wont leave me alone and keeps asking for a birthday "present", only after I told him I would break his neck if he didn't stop did he apologise, and he did it with a smirk.
.

My wife (then GF) and her sister had a similar run in........I suspect there are many stories.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

My wife (then GF) and her sister had a similar run in........I suspect there are many stories.

More than you think, there's a real beauty from the Shuswap that I'm shocked never got press and there's tonnes from Electric ave and Ranchman's.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I'm really glad you're doing well, but childhood trauma and sexual abuse aren't the same thing as beating cancer in terms of ****ing up you brain and your understanding of the world.

Idk, man, as someone who's worked with a lot of SA survivors and is a SA survivor himself, I think it's a cop out to blame his beliefs on his trauma.

I think he might just be an #######.

[Sr. Mints]

Concussions can absolutely change a person's impulse control.

[Red Slinger]

^and prolonged heavy substance abuse can cause barin dmgage... what was I saying?

[Minnie]

From my own perspective, not so much a commentary on Fleury but...

I am someone who was SA'd twice, as a child (not by my parents - a relative and a religious "leader") Had some adults in my life make some very inappropriate commentary as a very young adult (19), who were in positions of power where, had I made it public, would have lost those positions due to the nature.

I have experienced severe abuse in every other form, at the hands of my parents, to the point of 5 suicide attempts, only 1 of which, until this weekend, anyone was ever aware of. That abuse continued into my adult years, even physical, after I was married and a mother in my own right. I finally put a stop to the physical side by standing up for myself and giving a wallop right back, at age 26. The physical abuse stopped after that. When I say I walloped back that time, that isn't an indication of "minor" abuse - it just happened to be the most minor physical abuse I ever suffered. I could relate to you, all the manner of physical abuse I endured, and you'd remove your ability to hear, just so you didn't have to hear it. I know that I did not incur things like repeated concussions, due to a couple of MRIs in the past few years, though I had at least 1 known/documented concussion. My back is permanently effed from the abuse, due to the nature of how my father, and to a degree my mother, would inflict some of the abuse. That's not even 1/100th of what happened.

That doesn't even take into account the emotional, psychological, and verbal abuse that occurred. That was almost as severe as the physical abuse. We can throw some religious trauma in there too, as my father was a minister.

The point to the above is that none of that should be used to excuse me. I am still functioning. I did a ton of hard work on myself over the years, most of it occurring after I went full no contact with my mother 12 years ago (my father has been dead for 20 years). Does all the trauma inform how I relate to the world and those around me? Sure. The trauma I endured, and survived may explain why I think or feel or behave, or react in certain situations or in certain contexts - but what it doesn't give me a pass for, or is a justification for, is to perpetuate harmful behaviour, in whatever form that takes.

In the end, I am responsible and should be held accountable, as much as anyone else. My abuse and trauma doesn't give me the right to avoid taking responsibility, just as it doesn't give any other survivor of abuse and trauma the right to avoid responsibility. In fact, avoiding responsibility and accountability is something that will impede healing and/or growth, by using it as a cudgel and clinging to/claiming permanent victimhood. It is/was beholden on me, to break that chain of suffering and abuse, so that it didn't proliferate down the line, so to speak.

It's hard work, it's unpleasant work, it's work that will rip your heart out, shatter it into a million pieces, #### with your head in ways you never knew it could, but it is necessary work. It's probably work that will never be finished, because something will always crop up, that you've forgotten or compartmentalized in order to just survive. I'm not perfect - ie. I'm not the perfect "victim" because I'm doing the work. I struggle, I slip up, I have used my trauma to try and excuse myself. But, what I have done when that happens, is recognize it, make reparation to those I've harmed and do more work on myself. I made the choice. It's something we all do. I should be dead - I only got lucky that some of the abuse didn't kill me, or that the suicide attempts weren't successful. I'm still here and I want to enjoy being here, for as long as I can.

[Russic]

It seems there's a knee-jerk reaction sometimes to push back against the idea that his trauma played a role in his current behaviour. To many, to point out Theo being damaged by his trauma is seen as an excuse, when personally, I don't think it needs to be that. We can say it helps explain the behaviour but not excuse it.

We keep trying to find the silver bullet with this guy, but it's way too complicated to do that. He can be a SA survivor, a total a-hole, a spoiled pr*ck, and a guy who had a super unlucky dice roll all at the same time. All those things can mesh together to make him this way.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by Russic

It seems there's a knee-jerk reaction sometimes to push back against the idea that his trauma played a role in his current behaviour. To many, to point out Theo being damaged by his trauma is seen as an excuse, when personally, I don't think it needs to be that. We can say it helps explain the behaviour but not excuse it.

We keep trying to find the silver bullet with this guy, but it's way too complicated to do that. He can be a SA survivor, a total a-hole, a spoiled pr*ck, and a guy who had a super unlucky dice roll all at the same time. All those things can mesh together to make him this way.

As always Russic is smart as F! I wish I was more like you.

I don't think he is spoiled or particularly bright. It certainly doesn't make me feel better thinking I'm better than him. He's a dullard and this is his thing. Theo. I can't imagine the awful stuff he had to do. Maybe he needs to fight demons that don't actually exist to stop himself from putting a bullet in the base of his skull. Who knows.

We all have stuff we've had to deal with and being the winner in the took a C@ck in the ass olympics

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by fotze2

As always Russic is smart as F! I wish I was more like you.

I don't think he is spoiled or particularly bright. It certainly doesn't make me feel better thinking I'm better than him. He's a dullard and this is his thing. Theo. I can't imagine the awful stuff he had to do. Maybe he needs to fight demons that don't actually exist to stop himself from putting a bullet in the base of his skull. Who knows.

We all have stuff we've had to deal with and being the winner in the took a C@ck in the ass olympics

Based on the individual discussed in this thread and his history, maybe not the best figure of speech to use here...

[Russic]

Fotze is back, baby!

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by fotze2

As always Russic is smart as F! I wish I was more like you.

I don't think he is spoiled or particularly bright. It certainly doesn't make me feel better thinking I'm better than him. He's a dullard and this is his thing. Theo. I can't imagine the awful stuff he had to do. Maybe he needs to fight demons that don't actually exist to stop himself from putting a bullet in the base of his skull. Who knows.

We all have stuff we've had to deal with and being the winner in the took a C@ck in the ass olympics

What, in the actual, ####

[Yamer]

Local ####head continues undefeated streak of being an utter ####head.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1654904481094705152

[dissentowner]

Theo has gone completely Looney Tunes. Shame.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Local ####head continues undefeated streak of being an utter ####head.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1654904481094705152

I'm actually curious what he means by this?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I'm actually curious what he means by this?

He retweeted a reference to this news article, so I assume they are related:


https://edmontonjournal.com/news/loc...es-blazes-rcmp

[Cappy]

The Twittersphere is ablaze with rumours that NDP arsonists are starting these fires in Alberta during the election

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Cappy

The Twittersphere is ablaze with rumours that NDP arsonists are starting these fires in Alberta during the election

Oh sure, go with the crazy angle. Here I wasted my time on a reasonable one.

[CroFlames]

You just know with Theo he absolutely believes this stuff to the max, unlike some conservative grifters who just put on an act to make money.