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Old 06-22-2018, 08:31 AM   #721
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If Ottawa wants Stone, make the trade!!! 3.5 M is too much for a struggling depth defenceman. I know they don’t have a 2nd or 3rd, but what about Nick Paul (a prospect) or Pageau? Please not Zach Smith.

Also, interesting take on Hamilton for Trocheck above. 75 points in 82 games with really tough minutes and a below average shooting percentage is very impressive. I can understand why it would be extremely difficult to consider trading Trocheck.
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Old 06-22-2018, 08:32 AM   #722
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He and Stone are the only roster players of interest to me.

Of course based on the rumours last year, it'll probably be Zack Smith we get instead...
I would immediately lose what faith I have left in management if we acquired zack Smith. Pretty much guarantees no pitch for tavares lol
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Old 06-22-2018, 08:33 AM   #723
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retention would have to be 3.5M so close to 45% for it to be worth it IMO.

Ryan's contract is just so bad, it scares me.

I'm hoping the floodgates open here today, I think a lot of it hinges on JT's decision + Kovalchuk
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I would donthe trade with zero retention if Ryan had the same term as Stone and Brouwer but with 4 years left the retention would need to be significant.
About 2 million would be fine if you believe he can be a 50 point forward. But yeah its not without risk because of his 4 year term.
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Old 06-22-2018, 08:33 AM   #724
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Fox is only the furthest away because he is going back to university and does not have a contract. Many experts believe if he wanted to be in the NHL he is ready to play.
This is what i am saying. Its not his skill its his current playing situation that pushes him out farther. Best case is he plays next year. All other guys can make an impact this playing season.
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Old 06-22-2018, 08:34 AM   #725
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I really hope we at least see Tavares go ~somewhere~ instead of stay with the Isles. Ideally to the Flames... hopefully not to someone else in our division. But in any case him moving would likely cause a domino effect of moves with teams trying to react. And frankly I just want to see some moves
Yeah he and Kovalchuk are really slowing everything down. Make up your minds already.
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Old 06-22-2018, 08:36 AM   #726
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Bobby Ryan is interesting if Ottawa is willing to eat 40%-50% that wouldn't be bad. Also with Burke not being here anymore it could happen.
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Not that I ever put stock into his rumours, but Eklund suggesting Edmonton has “made the offer to beat” for Karlsson” makes me throw up in my mouth a bit.
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/erik-karlsson

He has a modified no trade clause. He can list 10 teams he won't go to. Edmonton is sure to be on that list.
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Bjustad is a more realistic bridie target for sure. I dont know if he actually fills a need for us though.

Edit: whoa nvm. I didn't realized he had completely turned it around last season (14 points to 49 lol) definitely should be a target but now I'm thinking brodie is not enough

I don't see a fit.



Florida is looking for a top4 defensive D and Brodie isn't that. They'd probably only be interested in Gio and that's obviously a no go.
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I might be a pessimist in this, but I think this will be a slow draft day trade wise. There is seemingly very little "definitive" trade talk and between Tavares, Carlson and EK (none of which are likely to resolve today), there seems to be a lot jam. Would definitely like to be wrong as I tend to nerd out for this day, but I am feeling a bit skeptical.
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Old 06-22-2018, 08:42 AM   #730
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Why are we so worried about cap space?
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Old 06-22-2018, 08:43 AM   #731
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Yeah, I didn't want to sound like a homer, but I'm not certain you could get Trocheck for Hamilton straight up. The Flames might have to add a late round pick or something.

Plus, I don't think the Panthers really need either of Hamilton or Brodie. Matheson is already a better defender than Brodie and his offense is nearly on par. Yandle is a smaller and less physical than Hamilton who is more of a playmaker than a goal scorer, but the players are relatively comparable.
Thanks for the interesting take on a team I don’t follow at all. I hadn’t noticed that Yandle at 31 5v5 points and 56 overall points last year. That’s incredibly impressive for a player starting very often in the defensive zone against difficult opposition and with a below average shooting percentage. How did FLA get him again?
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Friedman on 960 says he heard Fox's name come up at the draft.

He is also speculating that Ottawa might want Stone to keep Mark happy.
So.

Hamilton for Hanifin and Lindholm
Stone, Fox, Frolik, Brouwer for Ryan and Karlsson (no extension... yet)


Hanifin-Karlsson
Gio-Brodie
Kulak-Andersson

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Lindholm
Jankowksi-Bennett-Ryan
Mangiapane-Shore-Foo

Boom.
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Old 06-22-2018, 08:59 AM   #733
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So.

Hamilton for Hanifin and Lindholm
Stone, Fox, Frolik, Brouwer for Ryan and Karlsson (no extension... yet)


Hanifin-Karlsson
Gio-Brodie
Kulak-Andersson

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Lindholm
Jankowksi-Bennett-Ryan
Mangiapane-Shore-Foo

Boom.
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Stone for Pageau?
Stone for Karlsson?
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Thanks for the interesting take on a team I don’t follow at all. I hadn’t noticed that Yandle at 31 5v5 points and 56 overall points last year. That’s incredibly impressive for a player starting very often in the defensive zone against difficult opposition and with a below average shooting percentage. How did FLA get him again?
Pure UFA signing. They needed someone with experience and offensive skills after the departure of Brian Campbell.
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Old 06-22-2018, 09:02 AM   #736
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So.

Hamilton for Hanifin and Lindholm
Stone, Fox, Frolik, Brouwer for Ryan and Karlsson (no extension... yet)


Hanifin-Karlsson
Gio-Brodie
Kulak-Andersson

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Lindholm
Jankowksi-Bennett-Ryan
Mangiapane-Shore-Foo

Boom.
Lol!! Respect! I can't see it happening, but I like what you have done. Might be cap hell when it comes time to re-up Karlsson, Tkachuck and Lindholm.
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So.

Hamilton for Hanifin and Lindholm
Stone, Fox, Frolik, Brouwer for Ryan and Karlsson (no extension... yet)


Hanifin-Karlsson
Gio-Brodie
Kulak-Andersson

Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Lindholm
Jankowksi-Bennett-Ryan
Mangiapane-Shore-Foo

Boom.
5th defenseman, college prospect, 3rd line rw, bloated contract for arguably the best defenseman in the league? Boom indeed.

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Old 06-22-2018, 09:05 AM   #738
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5th defenseman, college prospect, 3rd line rw, bloated contract for arguably the best defenseman in the league? Boom indeed.

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Looks like the Phaneuf trade. There is value in taking on BR and his contract.
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Old 06-22-2018, 09:06 AM   #739
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Not sure you'd get a 2nd, but maybe you could get the Pen's 3rd and Ott's 5th for him if he has value to their relationship with the other Stone.

Would be nice to get that done, promote Andersson and have

3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 7 in a draft

looks a little better
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Hamonic can't make your team?
Whoops. Was so focused on dropping Stone to make room for Andersson that I forgot Hamonic.
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