[News] The Edmonton Oilers win the draft lottery and will select 1st overall

[Hockey Fan #751]

Originally Posted by transplant99

And the Flames went to 2.

The reason Calgary got as good as they did....is because of the Oilers. I have no problem with divisional rivals being good....gives the club a goal of getting to those levels. The late 80's being the best this team ever was...period, was also IMO the best time to be a fan.

Sure it sucked seeing Edm win those championships, but it was the impetus that drove Fletcher and Johnson/Crisp to improve. Calgary has a few parts to build on now themselves, regardless of McDavid or anyone else on that team. It bothers me not a bit that they have a bunch of young "hype" guys now as only 2 of those are really worth the status so many seem to be anointing on them.

If they ever figure things out up there, then the Flames will just have to have an answer themselves...and there is nothing to say they won't or can't. It would renew a very much dead rivalry as well. Win win.

Exactly. And if we're talking regular season, from 1986 onwards despite how good the Oilers were, the Flames owned them in the regular season.

Edmonton did take the two playoffs meetings in '88 and '91 but while '88 was a real disappointment since the Flames finished first overall in the league, '91 was a coin toss.

Edmonton certainly didn't wipe the floor with the Flames, though. From 82-86 sure but after the '86 playoff series the tide turned.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

Crosby was extended before reaching RFA status, as has nearly every other impact player in the past decade.

Crosby made the playoffs in his first two seasons, that will be the difference. When McDavid is watching the 2017 playoffs he may take a pass on MacT's promise to draft a small forward and 10 million a year.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Crosby made the playoffs in his first two seasons, that will be the difference. When McDavid is watching the 2017 playoffs he may take a pass on MacT's promise to draft a small forward and 10 million a year.

Crosby definitely didn't make the playoffs in his first season

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Crosby made the playoffs in his first two seasons, that will be the difference. When McDavid is watching the 2017 playoffs he may take a pass on MacT's promise to draft a small forward and 10 million a year.

Nope, Pitt missed the playoffs in his rookie year and lost in the first round the next year. The west is so much tougher to make the playoffs as well. Look at LA this year, a top 5 goalie in the league, top 5 Dman in the league, top 5 center in the league more overall depth then most, out of the playoffs. It is pretty naive to think he could turn any of the bottom 5 teams to a playoff contender in the next 3 years.

[jaydub74]

This thread needs to be locked. It seriously makes me depressed every time I log onto Calgary Puck. Let it go.......

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by AcGold

If Edmonton fired all of their management it would be a good point for an actual rebuild. Rebuild v 12.0.

Fixed.

[taco.vidal]

[dino7c]

When Sid one his cup he wasn't even the playoff MVP...still think its a joke those clowns get rewarded but I have calmed down a bit. The leading scorer in the NHL didnt even come close to making the playoffs this season

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

this had me laughing so hard lol thanks for sharing

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by dino7c

When Sid one his cup he wasn't even the playoff MVP...still think its a joke those clowns get rewarded but I have calmed down a bit. The leading scorer in the NHL didnt even come close to making the playoffs this season

To get his cup Crosby had Malkin and Staal supporting him down the middle and a fantastic blueline with guys like Gonchar, Orpik, and Letang to get him the puck, plus a first round goaltender playing up to his pedigree. McDavid may have some decent help up front, but it will be a long time before he gets any assistance from beyond the blueline

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

To get his cup Crosby had Malkin and Staal supporting him down the middle and a fantastic blueline with guys like Gonchar, Orpik, and Letang to get him the puck, plus a first round goaltender playing up to his pedigree. McDavid may have some decent help up front, but it will be a long time before he gets any assistance from beyond the blueline

did I really use one instead of won lol

good point, plus the cap is far more strict these days than when Sid broke in

[Jets4Life]

If anyone wants a good laugh, check out this link in the Edmonton Journal, especially the comments section.

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/201...of-the-league/

Unreal. Oilers fans think that McDavid is going to change everything. It's not just Katz who is stuck in the 80s. Tons of commentors are going on about their 5 Stanley Cups, and think that they are in position to be the next NHL dynasty.

I can't even make stuff like this up. It's like 9 years of cheering for bottom-dwellers, has made them delusional.

[Tinordi]

An uber elite talent can wallpaper over alot of problems.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

That was awesome

[Erick Estrada]

The silver lining is that McDavid should eventually elevate them from picking top 3 nearly every season and ruining the careers of top draft prospects. It really does take far more than one or two players to build a legit cup contender or even playoff team for that matter as the Stars missed the playoffs despite having two of the best forwards in the league this season. Also as I said before it's doubtful the kid will ever be a career Oiler as he's going to bolt east as soon as he's UFA as there's no amount of money or term Edmonton can offer him that Toronto or another team won't.

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The silver lining is that McDavid should eventually elevate them from picking top 3 nearly every season and ruining the careers of top draft prospects. It really does take far more than one or two players to build a legit cup contender or even playoff team for that matter as the Stars missed the playoffs despite having two of the best forwards in the league this season. Also as I said before it's doubtful the kid will ever be a career Oiler as he's going to bolt east as soon as he's UFA as there's no amount of money or term Edmonton can offer him that Toronto or another team won't.

There are a few silver linings:

-One or two of these former top picks is gonna get a chance at going to a real organization. I mean even Lowe/Mctavish have to realize the Oilers need defensively responsible players to get anywhere. The Oiler may not have soaked in fully to players like Draisaitl and Yakupov and it would be nice to see at least one kid get a chance as another's is taken away.

-The Oilers will probably trade next year's 1st, so it'll be someone else's lottery pick

-The Oilers will probably not scorch the earth in their front office like the Leafs did, now that there's new found optimism. The Oilers' drafting has been worse than the Leafs and the Leafs fired most of their scouts. At least we know that no one with decent potential other than McDavid will be drafted by Edmonton this year or in the foreseeable future.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

To get his cup Crosby had Malkin and Staal supporting him down the middle and a fantastic blueline with guys like Gonchar, Orpik, and Letang to get him the puck, plus a first round goaltender playing up to his pedigree. McDavid may have some decent help up front, but it will be a long time before he gets any assistance from beyond the blueline

I don't know if I would call the Pitts D-core that won the cup fantastic.
I'd say it was more like league average.

The Pens finished 17th in goals against that season.

Gonchar has always been an offense first guy.
Letang was in his sophmore season and was a minus player that year.
Orpik was a good shutdown guy.
Gill, Scuderi, and Eaton were serviceable defencemen.

Out of all the cup winners since the lockout, the only team with a worse D-core were the Hurricanes.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Yeah, they need some help on the blue line for sure, but it's not like that's IMPOSSIBLE to find. They don't need Shea Weber; they need a reliable top 4 guy who eats 20+ minutes. You can UFA those guys.

The big thing they need is stable, league-average or better netminding. Without that, it doesn't matter what they do.

[PlayfulGenius]

I know this won't happen...but, do you think the Oilers would be better off trading the pick for a massive package that included one of the premier young D in the league?

Seth Jones
Aaron Ekblad

Or even an older player like Subban, Pietrangelo, Hamilton???

[Coach]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Yeah, they need some help on the blue line for sure, but it's not like that's IMPOSSIBLE to find. They don't need Shea Weber; they need a reliable top 4 guy who eats 20+ minutes. You can UFA those guys.

The big thing they need is stable, league-average or better netminding. Without that, it doesn't matter what they do.

A) Maybe not Shea Weber, but you need something close to have a contender. (Keith, Doughty, Giordano, Suter, etc...) You don't win without a stud dman.

B) your second point; they need 4 of those. Zero, literally zero of their Dmen are top 4 calibre on a contending team.

I agree with your last point. You go nowhere with sub-par goaltending.