2013-2014 NBA season thread

[bluejays]

I don't know if Minny necessarily wins this deal. I think they have a lesser chance of losing if anything. Having said that, I'm shocked they were able to get Wiggins out of this given their hands being tied with a player who was on the outs. Cleveland should not have had to deal him either, but again, LeBron spoke and they bent over backwards. If LeBron really wanted Love, it should not have leaked. Instead it's cost Cleveland more than they should have given the circumstances, and they've had to give up a potential franchise player. Bennett's virtually useless and the 1st is protected and will likely be in the bottom 10, so no loss there for Cleveland. If LeBron does walk the team won't be good bad enough to get those high picks again, so I couldn't be happier they gave up a substantial asset when they didn't have to. Gilbert and crew are idiots.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I'm not sure how anyone can say Minnesota won this trade. I guess relatively speaking you can say they maximized what they could have gotten as a return, but getting even value is unlikely to happen. I'd say realistically there's a 15-20% chance Andrew Wiggins will ever be as good as Kevin Love is right now, Bennett and the draft pick are a wash so the only way Minnesota can win this trade is if Wiggins fulfills his potential.

I feel fairly confident in saying Wiggins will never be as good as Love, who by the way can still get better seeing as he's just hitting his prime and leaving the West for the East and now has the best player in the league beside him instead of a couple of guys in the top 100 (maybe?) in Minnesota.

The thing is Minnesota didn't have to trade Love now so even if Cleveland didn't want to include Wiggins, Minnesota wasn't obligated to trade Love. They could have waited until the trade deadline and gotten the exact same packages. Of course if they waited maybe Minnesota does what Portland did last year and takes a big jump and then maybe the Wolves have a chance to re-sign Love.

But as Raptor fans most of us should love this trade. The odds Wiggins is demanding a trade like Love in a few years is much higher in Minnesota than it is Cleveland, and since Wiggins can force his way anywhere by refusing to sign a new deal with whomever he's traded to, he could force his way to Toronto. Wiggins-Coboclo 2020 is the future!

[JonDuke]

Jordan, imo, is the greatest of all time, and I never really liked Kobe, but this is pretty cool.

[OzSome]

Why are they claiming a 3-way trade between Minnesota, Cleveland and Philadelphia when 76ers didn't get any player from Cavs? It is more like Minnesota made a separate deals first with Cleveland (Love for Wiggins and Bennett) then another deal to acquire G Thadeus Young for 2 players.

I might start watching Minnesota this season with Wiggins and hopefully a much better Bennett together. Now they just need a good center.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by OzSome

Why are they claiming a 3-way trade between Minnesota, Cleveland and Philadelphia when 76ers didn't get any player from Cavs? It is more like Minnesota made a separate deals first with Cleveland (Love for Wiggins and Bennett) then another deal to acquire G Thadeus Young for 2 players.

I might start watching Minnesota this season with Wiggins and hopefully a much better Bennett together. Now they just need a good center.

My guess (I haven't seen it actually explained) is this: the trade for Thad Young would not work on its own: Minnesota would be receiving significantly more salary than they are giving up. But by bundling it as part of the Love deal, they get credit for the fact that they're giving up a lot of salary in the other side of the trade without taking much back.
Now, they could just execute the Love trade, which creates a big trade exception, then use the trade exception to acquire Young. This is where it gets really complicated, but there are rules that make it more difficult to trade multiple players along with a trade exception. By treating it as a simultaneous trade, they can send Philly multiple players along with a trade exception.

[Da_Chief]

I heard the 6ers are getting Heat 2015 first from the Cavs as well...

[SuperMatt18]

https://www.behance.net/gallery/1876...BA-to-football

These are actually pretty nice.